To think that a personality cult has developed around Boris Johnson?

[Applejaxx]

I know this sounds completley ridiculous but have a quick look around social media and in particular Twitter, and you will see a disturbing number of people with lots of union flags in their twitter handle name who effectively think that the sun shines out of his arse, that he can do no wrong and that any justifiable criticism of his or his governments handling of the current crisis is part of a massive 'leftie' conspiracy against him.

They are terrified of 'lefties's and 'liberals' and think all of the media are out to get Boris and his government, it is just bat shit. Its not just Twitter either, I had to unfriend someone on Facebook after they told me that I should 'show Boris some fucking respect' a few weeks ago. This was after I'd shared something criticising his handling of the pandemic. Thankfully it was somone I don't really know that well and never have to see again, but still!

If im honest it all a bit disturbing. Its reminscent of a personality cult IMO, 'how dare you disrespect our glorious leader'.

I am still amused by the fact that certain posters have brought up Churchill up and said that he would be criticised for his actions in the war when they clearly don't know much about Churchill and the fact that he himself criticised the Government during the inter war years because of their lack of preparedness for possible war with Germany - and he used the press to criticise the Government.

Interesting as well that Narvik came up - I guess the person who brought that up didn't realise that the Narvik campaign led to the Norway debate which led to a vote of No Confidence in the Government.

This led to a Government of National Unity and Churchill becoming Prime Minister.

And Narvik was also another of Churchills complete fucks up whilst in charge of the admiralty. Along with Singapore, North Africa (demanding generals attack every other week when the germans had tanks twice the size), Dunkirk, Crete, Greece etc. all against Generals advice. A time the BEF became known as the 'back every Fridays'. He also wanted to sack Montgomery in the early days for not attacking understrength. And yes as you say Cho, the government became a coalition. The war was won very much despite Churchill's micromanagement and petty personal vendettas.
Some of you forelock tugging Brexit types really need to get out of your middle class, daddy will cover it bubble and see the destruction your party of posh pillocks has caused this country throughout history.

I doubt @CendrillonSings will be back on this thread. Shame really

Yes - it's funny how when Churchill is brought up as the Greatest Ever Englishman, people often overlook what actually went on in history.

I guess people only ever learn superficially about him as has been shown on here.

In the 30s Churchill wanted development of single engine fighters, like the Hurricane and Spitfire halted, in favour of a twin engined fighter bombers.... Chamberlain didn't listen and the rest is history!

I am really sick of the "he's doing he best he can in a bad situation" brigade.

Our government is handling it terribly. Worst in Europe. Would be the worst in the world if it wasn't for his mate Trump.

And one of the first people he calls is Trump ? Why didn't he call Arden in New Zealand... someone whose actually got a handle on the situation.

I am so feed up of people who know it all, who are not beating Boris's door down to show him how to make Corona virus disappear tomorrow.
Gllet real.

Not sure this figures are quiet right...
But here goes.
New Zealand is almost as big as UK in size.
100,000 square miles ish...
London is 610 square miles.
London has twice as many people as New Zealand.
Now do you think how much land there is per person might explain why we have behaved differently .

Hong Kong has done pretty well with a very high population density.

New Zealand is almost as big as UK in size

Auckland

1.7 million people
Total deaths in New Zealand is 14

No matter how you look at it, New Zealand is doing something right - with its major city having very few deaths.

I am so feed up of people who know it all, who are not beating Boris's door down to show him how to make Corona virus disappear tomorrow

We aren't going to make it disappear tomorrow.

If we have a proper mechanism for testing, for tracking and tracing - we might make the impact much less severe.

Are we doing 100,000 people per day for testing?
Or are doing 100,000 tests per day?
Or are we aiming to have the capacity to do 100,000 tests per day?

These things matter if we are going to get out of this effectively.

New Zealand has some pretty strict immigration controls of course - no doubt we should copy those as well.

New Zealand has some pretty strict immigration controls of course - no doubt we should copy those as well

Maybe we should...

I missed this - 2,500 hospital workers in Hong Kong went on strike in early Feb demanding that the borders with mainland China be closed - going against WHO advice. A week earlier, Donald Trump's restrictions against China were described as xenophobic.

time.com/5777285/hong-kong-coronavirus-border-closure-strike/

Not entirely sure what that's got to do with Boris Johnson though....

Forgot to highlight recent post above-

Hong Kong has done pretty well with a very high population density.

Donald Trump's restrictions against China were described as xenophobic

Were they?

www.factcheck.org/2020/04/trump-biden-spin-china-travel-restrictions/

From your link;

"On the day the White House announced the travel restrictions, Biden did say at a campaign event in Iowa that as the pandemic unfolds, Americans “need to have a president who they can trust what he says about it, that he is going to act rationally about it.” He added, “This is no time for Donald Trump’s record of hysteria and xenophobia– hysterical xenophobia–and fearmongering to lead the way instead of science.”

mummmy2017

Oh, Jer-e-my Corbyn....

Is not Labour leader...

Any fucking mor-ore....

Your comments are point-less

“This is no time for Donald Trump’s record of hysteria and xenophobia– hysterical xenophobia–and fearmongering to lead the way instead of science

Also from that link (even though this thread has NOTHING to do with Johnson but it's a sidetrack)

The Biden campaign says Biden’s “reference to xenophobia was about Trump’s long record of scapegoating others at a time when the virus was emerging from China,” and that he was not talking about the travel ban.

On April 3, Biden’s campaign said Biden supported Trump’s decision to impose travel restrictions on China.
“Joe Biden supports travel bans that are guided by medical experts, advocated by public health officials, and backed by a full strategy,” Kate Bedingfeld, Biden’s deputy campaign manager, told CNN. “Science supported this ban, therefore he did too.”

But selective quoting is something people do..

And it is true that the USA does need someone who they can trust and who will act rationally, not someone who has a track record of hysteria and xenophobia and fearmongering - no one wants those to lead the way, they want science to lead the way.

Just as in the UK, Boris Johnson is supposed to be letting science lead the way.

On April 3, Biden’s campaign said Biden supported Trump’s decision to impose travel restrictions on China.

Although the Washington Times ran with;

"Biden tweaks history to benefit campaign."

www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/5/inside-the-beltway-joe-biden-tweaks-history-to-ben/

Just out of interest - what has this got to do with Boris Johnson?

There's a link here - from one of the Trump travel ban articles;

"WHO spokesman Chris Lindmeier warned that closing borders could in fact accelerate its spread, with travellers entering countries unofficially."