To think some people need to get a grip!

[CurrentBun1981]

There are clearly those who are being far too nonchalant about the current situation, but tbh I'm probably encountering more of the slightly hysterical/OTT types right now.

For example, my friend has been frantically discussing on FB how best to sterilise her shopping and has implemented some ridiculously elaborate system of debagging shopping in the garage, putting the bags in the outside bin, wiping everything down with sanitising wipes, then walking back to put these in the bin too, before then leaving everything in quarantine for a couple days in the garage fridge. She's now worried about whether she's already brought the virus into the house on her shoes or her dog as she hadn't thought of that till she read it, and is discussing this on FB right now, trying to make another process involving outdoor footwear, indoor footwear, and 'transitional' footwear (presumably slippers from garage into house or something).

Her view is that she wants to go 110% in ensuring she doesn't catch it, which is fine. However, she doesn't do anything like this in any other areas of her life, which I suspect is the same thing for many others acting similarly.

For example, I've never seen her check the tyre pressure on her car and am 100% certain she doesn't do this weekly as is recommended. I'm pretty certain she doesn't know the legal tread depth and how to check it as she often needs new tyres at MOT stage (presumably illegally low on tread at this point).

What is it about this recent crisis that's invoking fear in the types of people who rarely use their car mirrors except to check their make up?

I'll concede that theoretically you could probably bring the virus into your house on your feet if you stepped in somebody's spit etc, but the likelihood has got to be tiny, and this is all ultimately to avoid catching a disease which will give the majority of victims 'mild' symptoms and is statistically extremely unlikely to kill her in the unlikely chance she catches it - I'm convinced the government might just let us crack on and catch it if it wasn't for the unmanageable strain on the NHS.

Sound exhausting, YANBU

I completely agree OP. My own sister is being massively OTT (and keeps reminding us daily to STAY THE FUCK HOME, wow thanks Julie I was off galavanting at house parties until I saw your post ) but she once went on holiday and left her car with her FIL who noticed the tyres were bald, went to Kwik Fit who said it was so bad it was like driving on balloons and it's a miracle they hadn't all burst. She did the whole "How am I supposed to know about cars im just a silly woman" routine she also keeps dogs that have bitten people several times and once had to get a dog PTS because it mauled her so badly she had to have plastic surgery on her leg - this happened after the same dog bit several family members and we begged her to get rid of him before something much worse happened, which it did, and now she has part of her arse on her leg because she didn't give enough of a crap about her and her kids' safety.

But don't forget to Dettol your parcels 🙄

I've voted YABU for the use of 'hysterical' in relation to females.

Spiteful and unnecessary, do some research. I am overweight. I have to take steroids. (I'm not when I'm not on steroids). So I'm at risk because of my illness, because of steroids and because of my weight. There are many reasons people are overweight, antidepressants, various other drugs, eating disorders. I suggested earlier in the thread you should be kinder. Obviously you're not taking it on board.

I sympathise with your uncommon situation, but fact is that the majority of this country are now overweight and I don't believe for a second that this is caused by medical/hereditary issues that have suddenly arisen in the last couple of generations.

Most of my friends who drink a lot, eat poorly, and live sedentary lives have piled on the pounds in their 30s. All of the few women in my thai boxing class are slim (some curvy but still with low body fat).

I'm not hating on fat people (my partner was starting to get a bit softer before his hormonal condition was diagnosed, although he largely managed it with training/diet). However, I refuse to play along with this fantasy that weight isn't largely controlled by lifestyle any more than I'll agree that humans can change sex. Both assertions usually stem from people trying to validate their reality by controlling/policing the beliefs of others.

I've voted YABU for the use of 'hysterical' in relation to females.

It wasn't meant as a gendered term. That said, none of my male acquaintances have admitted to 'sobbing uncontrollably' before going to the shop or crying in bed for two hours because they ran out of bread.

Sorry if I've come across a bit mardy. I've not been able to sleep yet and start work at 1pm an hour's drive away (struggling to adjust to new shift which I'm covering due to usual manager off).

It's a bit of a sore topic right now as one of my rather plump mates keeps promising to come training then cancelling on the night when I've already left work earlier than I otherwise would've.

He keeps moaning that it runs in the family and he's 'like his dad' (who I'd say is probably fat because he sits on the sofa and drinks a four pack of cider most nights). Conveniently, my friend forgets about the time he moved house and lost a fair amount of weight by not being able to afford takeaways for a few months.

As they say, it's not obesity that runs in the family, it's that no one runs in the family.

it is killing people of young ages too and those without pre existing medical conditions. It is set to kill atleast 40,000 it may aswell be a zombie acopylypse

Is it killing young healthy people though? There has been a handful of people with no KNOWN health conditions. Do you know their full medical background. From the pictures I've seen alot don't look to be in peak physical condition. People drop dead in their 20s from unknown heart conditions and there are lots of people with addiction issues, weight issues and pre health conditions walking about. Don't let the media fool you, this is a mild illness for the vast majority of people.

Flu can kill around 17000 a year. I don't see you washing your shopping over that.

If you think this is like a zombie apocalypse then you need your head checking. Or you don't know what a zombie apocalypse is, go watch the waking dead or play resident evil, then compare to England 2020.

Fwiw I have had it. My whole family have had it including parents in 60s, me pregnant and disabled ds. It's no worse than any other virus you pick up. Its no where near as bad as flu for most people.

@CurrentBun1981

I'm with you currentbun. If everyone is overweight due to medication, then why are people getting fatter as more takeaways open? Why don't other European countries have such a bad obesity issue? When someone is anorexic they are told to eat more, not told OK just be dangerously thin, so why can overweight people say they have an eating disorder therefore its OK to just eat themselves to death. And if steroids make you fat why do body builders take them?

If your worried about this virus because your overweight, why arnt you worried about diabetes and cancer?

I accept that some people can't help being overweight, but that is a vastly tiny percent. That majority simple eat too much of the wrong stuff.

Pulpfiction1 - you lose credibility by claiming it’s nowhere near as bad as flu for most people. You don’t actually know that. Plenty of people get minor flu symptoms. Most people who die of/with flu have underlying conditions or are old. Don’t claim expertise you don’t have.

And as for peak physical condition, I think you’ll find a huge proportion of people in the UK are in far from peak physical condition, so your words are unlikely to be reassuring, anyway! And the death rate from coronavirus would be much higher if our hospitals became overwhelmed or ran out of oxygen - because a far higher proportion of people need hospital treatment for covid 19 than actually die of the disease.

And tbh, you would be veryneurotic to be worried about dlu at the moment, now we are out of peak flu season - it actually is more sensible to be worried about covid 19 in the middle of a covid 19 epidemic.

Plenty of people get minor flu symptoms.

No they don't, people claim to have flu when they have a bad cold.

You only have to look at the Sat's to see that the vast majority of people will need no medical treatment.

Yes a small % will need medical assistance, that is why we are on lock down, to SLOW the spread and stop the hospitals getting overwhelmed. The hospitals are not currently overwhelmed, so there doesn't need to be this insane panic about getting it unless you are in the small % of people that are high risk.

We actually need the virus to spread a bit quicker otherwise this lock down is gonna keep dragging on. Hense the lax in lock down rules.

And tbh, you would be veryneurotic to be worried about dlu at the moment, now we are out of peak flu season - it actually is more sensible to be worried about covid 19 in the middle of a covid 19 epidemic.

I'm not worried about flu or covid. I have no reason to worry about either. I'm not elderly or immune compromised. I'd be better off worrying about being in a RTA. Which I'm also not, because you can't live your life like that.

Pulpfiction1 - actually, people can test positive for influenza and not get severe symptoms... so stick that in your pipe and smoke it. I’m not washing my shopping, but I do understand why other people are scared of the unknown, and pretend know-it-alls who confidently spout about things scientists admit they don’t know enough about do not help anxious people.

Although severely anxious people would be better off not watching the news, as it is very one-track!

@CurrentBun1981
Inappropriate probably but I actually lol'd. So true. My DP keeps telling me how much weight he's losing on lockdown in a slightly surprised way. Well yes we're home cooking 3 meals a day, taking our daily exercise really seriously and you're not downing pints and eating burgers with your mates twice a week.
@Pulpfiction: agreed.

actually, people can test positive for influenza and not get severe symptoms... so stick that in your pipe and smoke it

I've never heard of anyone being tested for the flu. Not unless they are in hospital with symptoms.

I assume your referring to some research program.

Doesn't really change the fact that when Dave at work claimed he had the flu but was soldiering through he actually just had a bad cold.

In actual real life most people that come down with symptoms of the flu get very ill, can't get out of bed ill, unless they have the vaccine. Most people that claim to have had flu had a bad cold.

And you know that without testing, Pulpfiction?! How very clever of you.

pretend know-it-alls who confidently spout about things scientists admit they don’t know enough about do not help anxious people.

To be honest I don't care about helping anxious people. Not my job. And alot of these people are not anxious, they are just sheep following a mass hysteria perpetuated by the media. The rest are just lock down saints trying to come off as superior.

#iwashmyshoppingtosavelives

Given the lack of testing for covid 19, you could equally argue most people who claim to have had it just had a bad cold.

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Another interesting one is obese people suddenly being worried that being fat makes them more likely to die. As if dying from heart disease or cancer was not worth worrying about but covid is.

I think it's more to do with the fact there is information floating about that if you have a certain BMI they won't resuscitate you.

How true this is I don't know.

Well said, the supermarkets are causing stress, I'm a care worker, I shop for vulnerable adults all hours, not every shop understands that we are busy bathing the elderly before 10.00am.

And as it is thought some of the 6,000 excess deaths in the week ending 3 April may have been caused by people being so anxious about covid 19 that they did not go to hospital when showing symptoms of other types of illness, I would say you are wrong to dismiss the levels of anxiety some people must be feeling!

I have 2 friends who have lost their lives in a week one was young fit and helthy no underlying issues and left behind 2 kids, do yes it is killing healthy people too, she was the last person I'd expect to die from it

@Pulpfiction1 also just checked the side effects on my steroids and weight gain is one of them and makes sense cause when i was on them for extended period of time I did put on weight but lost it soon after coming off them. They are used to treat alot of different things so could imagine their are alot more people than we might think that are taking them. There are also other medications and conditions that cause weight gain. For instance illnesses that effect mobility it can be very hard to keep weight off doesn't mean people don't try

And as it is thought some of the 6,000 excess deaths in the week ending 3 April may have been caused by people being so anxious about covid 19 that they did not go to hospital when showing symptoms of other types of illness

Well you can't cure stupid.