To think some people need to get a grip!

[CurrentBun1981]

There are clearly those who are being far too nonchalant about the current situation, but tbh I'm probably encountering more of the slightly hysterical/OTT types right now.

For example, my friend has been frantically discussing on FB how best to sterilise her shopping and has implemented some ridiculously elaborate system of debagging shopping in the garage, putting the bags in the outside bin, wiping everything down with sanitising wipes, then walking back to put these in the bin too, before then leaving everything in quarantine for a couple days in the garage fridge. She's now worried about whether she's already brought the virus into the house on her shoes or her dog as she hadn't thought of that till she read it, and is discussing this on FB right now, trying to make another process involving outdoor footwear, indoor footwear, and 'transitional' footwear (presumably slippers from garage into house or something).

Her view is that she wants to go 110% in ensuring she doesn't catch it, which is fine. However, she doesn't do anything like this in any other areas of her life, which I suspect is the same thing for many others acting similarly.

For example, I've never seen her check the tyre pressure on her car and am 100% certain she doesn't do this weekly as is recommended. I'm pretty certain she doesn't know the legal tread depth and how to check it as she often needs new tyres at MOT stage (presumably illegally low on tread at this point).

What is it about this recent crisis that's invoking fear in the types of people who rarely use their car mirrors except to check their make up?

I'll concede that theoretically you could probably bring the virus into your house on your feet if you stepped in somebody's spit etc, but the likelihood has got to be tiny, and this is all ultimately to avoid catching a disease which will give the majority of victims 'mild' symptoms and is statistically extremely unlikely to kill her in the unlikely chance she catches it - I'm convinced the government might just let us crack on and catch it if it wasn't for the unmanageable strain on the NHS.

So - of the people who are washing all their shopping, who is still eating salad and are you washing that with soap first???

You were doing fine until your last paragraph but then you went off piste.

1. young, fit people are dying. This is not an elderly person's illness. Our ICU is full of people in their 50's and we've seen 20 year olds on the Covid Wards.
2. everyone's immune systems react differently so there is no specific marker that sparks respiratory shutdown, therefore, there's no way to know if it will be a minor illness in you.
3. she's not just worried about herself so you have to factor in guilt over possibly giving it to someone you love and they die: could you forgive yourself?

I was panicked but I'm past it, I only get anxiety every so often and there's a reason: I don't think about it. If I did I would not be able to do my job.

I get up, get dressed, go to work, do my job, come home. Repeat. And that's what I will do until this shit is over.

A Dr did a phone in on Lbc today.

Someone called in and asked what is the best way for him to disinfect his takeaways, melons and bananas.

The Dr basically told him he's mental and to just wash his hands before he eats food.

I think a lot of people have latched on to the idea that we will have a vaccine soon, so they can stay locked inside bleaching their lettuce leaves until then. I've heard "a year" and "the end of the year" mentioned as if that would be the outside of the time frame. We may never have a vaccine! We don't have one for any other type of coronavirus. Attempts to make them, eg, for SARS, were failures.

I've never seen any of my friends check their tyre pressure, not something you usually do when you've got company!!
I am quarentining shopping as it comes into the house or washing fresh stuff that needs to go in fridge or freezer

Witchwobbleknees - yes, but washing the fresh stuff with what?

Better to me optimistic though 1300cake or what's the point in living. Humans have to have hope, if we have no hope then what's the point. I would rather keep on sanitising and have hope than drop to my feet and let this take over my mind. If it helps some of us to have hope some sort of cure will some day be created whilst protecting oneself i don't see what's wrong in that. My mental health cannot cope with doom and gloom

never thought i'd be the type to anti bac my shopping but there we are. I feel like an idiot doing it but I'd feel like a bigger idiot if i didn't. Everyone has their limit I guess

From reading some of the comments on this thread you would think covid19 turns people into the walking dead and is creating a zombie apocalypse.

For most people it's no worse than a cold. Even if there is never a vaccine it doesn't matter, we still have herd immunity to fall back on.

It isn't that simple unfortunately pulp it is killing people of young ages too and those without pre existing medical conditions. It is set to kill atleast 40,000 it may aswell be a zombie acopylypse. And thats just the first wave, this isn't know normal flu and herd immunity isn't proven or established as being true unfortunately.

Pupfiction1 have you had covid? My colleague had it and she took 3 weeks to recover. I have it now. I'm on day 11 and its way worse than a cold.

It isn't that simple unfortunatelypulpit is killing people of young ages too and those without pre existing medical conditions. It is set to kill atleast 40,000 it may aswell be a zombie acopylypse.

To be fair, the normal flu kills loads of young people too. I'm sure like 23,000 people had already died of the flu this season in the US report I saw a couple months back.

But admittedly Corona is a bit nastier, although lots of people seem unaware just how many people die from the flu every year.

Why is the flu killing so many American children?

www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/flu-children-us-deaths-outbreak-america-why-coronavirus-a9323866.html%3famp

But coronavirus is killing a lot more people and globally. It is a deadlier type of flu with no vaccine for people and people at risk are at huge predisposition to it. This isn't a flu

I kind of get you OP
I’ve got a friend who I know doesn’t put her kids in car seats (5 and 8) waxing lyrical on Facebook about keeping her babies safe etc

People who definitely cannot go out ever due to their asthma who SMOKE

Aren't shops making their staff wear gloves when stocking shelves? I've kind of been assuming they are doing that.

Localocal - and would glove wearing provide you with any reassurance? It doesn’t stop people sneezing or coughing or breathing on the shelves, nor touching their faces with the gloves, then touching the shelves. What is so magical about wearing the same pair of gloves for hours?

@sunshine11

The death stats are not the same as last year, the number of deaths are much higher, by about 6,000 per week.

I'm not sure where this death stats urban myth started, it may be a legacy argument from the time when there were 10s of deaths, but I'm disturbed to see it's still doing the rounds.

The most recent data goes up to the start of April (now out of date by two weeks)

^It shows in the week ending 3 April there were 16,000 deaths - 6,000 more than could be expected at this time of the year when the number of deaths normally starts to fall with winter over.

This is the highest death number since these figures were first published in 2005, more than the previous peak seen during the bad flu outbreak of 2015.^

www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/health-51979654

It is a deadlier type of flu with no vaccine for people and people at risk are at huge predisposition to it. This isn't a flu.

I think the main issue is that it spreads much more easily than previous coronaviruses - it's actually pretty mild compared to the previous ones. MERS has a mortality rate 10x that of Covid19, and the SARS mortality rate is over 3x higher.

I'm just really glad that it isn't as deadly as MERS, because we'd be truly fucked then considering how much easier it spreads!

What scares me is imagining a virus as infectious as chicken pox but as deadly as MERS. We'd already be done for if that had been the case!

I’ve told dh to only tell me what I need to know re rules etc.

Wow. Imagine thinking for yourself

@cloudspotter Bravo! Finally someone provides some data rather than unsubstantiated opinion.

@floatyboat .... really ..put everything in the oven ... dangerous advice
and your comment on obese people ..comes across as thoughtless ... people are obese for many reasons ... this virus is a genuine danger to them.... try and be kinder ...

I do speculate that using loads of bleach/disinfectants possibly presents more of a risk than the small likelihood of catching corona.

people are obese for many reasons

Mostly related to food though, really. I don't think it's helpful to remove agency from people when the vast majority of chubby people have the ability to lose weight.

Mostly related to food though, really. I don't think it's helpful to remove agency from people when the vast majority of chubby people have the ability to lose weight.
@CurrentBun1981 Spiteful and unnecessary, do some research. I am overweight. I have to take steroids. (I'm not when I'm not on steroids). So I'm at risk because of my illness, because of steroids and because of my weight. There are many reasons people are overweight, antidepressants, various other drugs, eating disorders. I suggested earlier in the thread you should be kinder. Obviously you're not taking it on board.

The question of bringing food in was addressed on the BBC Breakfast a couple of weeks ago. The expert on the programme (cannot remember if she was a doctor or scientist but worked in the area of viral transference) said that although there has not been any studies of CV on food, she would advise washing food if that is possible.

We leave coats and shoes by the door.