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To feel awful for Boris

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YouDoYou18 · 15/04/2020 07:08

A few people I know have said some awful things like ‘it serves him right’

I didn’t vote conservative, and to be honest I’ve never been a big fan of BJ himself.. but Christ do I feel awful for the poor man.

He must have thought it was going to be relatively easy, brexit was almost over and we just had to get through the last little bit and then the world fell into one of the biggest disasters in recent history...

He’s got to balance trying to save a big percentage of the population with making sure they have an economy to return to when this is over, he’s got to pull unprecedented amounts of money from thin air to support everyone through this time, everyone thinks they can do a better job and then to top it off he catches the virus himself and ends up hospitalised!

He just can’t catch a break! Whether you like him or not surely I’m not being unreasonable in feeling pretty bad for the guy?

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Vanhi · 15/04/2020 14:05

Wrong board to post on too many nasty people on here he can’t see beyond him being a Tory

It's not him being a Tory that's the problem. He is power hungry, devoid of compassion for those less fortunate than him, which is most people, he plays the buffoon, he manipulates people and he's dangerous. Some Tories I'm fine with - but not Johnson, Patel, Gove, IDS, Raab or Rees-Mogg.

LilacTree1 · 15/04/2020 14:09

Stealth yes, you mean income tax?

I reckon there will be a lot more people foraging and trying to be self sufficient after this.

To those talking about how people can’t see behind him being a Tory, I’ve voted for Tories and Labour. This current handling is what I wouldn’t expect from Tories.

LilacTree1 · 15/04/2020 14:10

Behind?

Sorry, I have no brain at present.

catsandcoffees · 15/04/2020 14:41

I’m sure it can’t have been at all pleasant being in ICU, but I’m not sure why I should feel more sympathy for him than the thousands of others who have been or will be in this situation.

All this “our Boris” and comparisons to Churchill are doing my head in.

A more pertinent question would be - how have Germany managed to only experience a fraction of the deaths we have seen here? I read they were much more effective at identifying, isolating and testing at the initial source? And they even had the capacity to send some of their surplus ventilators to the UK.

countrygirl99 · 15/04/2020 14:48

Cendrillion is another one who could do with reading Matthew 7 verses 1-5.

Wherever a society is not prepared to conceed that maybe the other side can get things right or that their side can get things wrong you end up with a poor choice from all parties because they aren't held properly to account, they can rely on unquestioning worshippers like Cendrillion ( and the sane on the left). We and the US are both in that situation. Both parties can get things right and wrong, we all need to shine a light where things are going wrong whoever is in power. If we don't we end up with what we've got.

rwalker · 15/04/2020 18:20

rwalker How do you explain the fact that one of the government's own advisers thinks Britain may end up with the worst outcome in Europe?

The virus takes the vulnerable and infirm it's no coincidence that we in Europe we have a very high % of overweight and unhealthy people .

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 15/04/2020 18:39

He thought coronavirus was a joke, though at first didn’t he. Going around shaking hands with people refusing to close down schools.

Also about pulling money from thin air.
It’s funny he has all magic money their £10,000 weekly pay for working from home.

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 15/04/2020 18:42

Our Boris. He’s not my Boris. This is the bloke who cheered when NHS staff pay rise wAs was refused. Can some one please tell me what is so fantastic and amazing about this clown. I really don’t get get it.

VeryQuaintIrene · 15/04/2020 18:56

He's vile. Dishonest, greedy and selfish, prepared to sell the UK out through supporting Brexit for his own individual ambitions to be PM.. I have no sympathy whatsoever for him and while I don't wish him active harm, if he'd taken the action that leaders in some other countries had taken, we would have way fewer deaths now.

Jane10000000 · 15/04/2020 20:17

I have no more sympathy for him. I don’t see any difference between him and Trump, both are self serving and have no idea what normal people are going through in this crazy time.
He had ITU bed waiting for him whereas others have to queue and meet various criteria.He gets Full wedge to recuperate with girl friend.

Justanotherlurker · 15/04/2020 20:38

The anti tory rehtoric is strong on this thread, some people are so lacking in critical thinking that they post inane facebook drivel.

He had ITU bed waiting for him whereas others have to queue and meet

It's funny to see how people have flipped between listening to experts when it suits their political standpoint, it highlights how well read they are on politics and geopolitics when they are just parroting snippets from certain publications, high ranking tweets.

I think after the lockdown, MN being 'intelligent discussion' can be wiped from the pretense of what the political discussion has become the past 10 years have shown it is full of political activism, this pandemic has highlighted it.

Peregrina · 15/04/2020 20:40

And Michael Gove isn't a Tory? You know, the man who said we'd had enough of experts. Is it only OK for Tories to change their minds and decide that there is a place for experts after all?

ChrissieKeller61 · 15/04/2020 20:41

I like to think the nurses pissed in his tea. I know they wouldn't but.

Emmapeeler1 · 15/04/2020 20:48

I am glad he is better but no, I don't have any sympathy for him politically. Not because he is Tory, but because he is Boris Johnson.

KenDodd · 15/04/2020 21:00

I don't feel sorry for him. He's a victim of his own 'herd immunity' policy which involved letting people get CV (and a percentage die). He's lucky he didn't die, unlike at least 12,868 other people who did die.

1forsorrow · 15/04/2020 21:13

The anti tory rehtoric is strong on this thread, some people are so lacking in critical thinking that they post inane facebook drivel. No it isn't anti tory it is anti this govt. Whatever your politics you know we have had good and bad in all parties, this time we have useless.

Justanotherlurker · 15/04/2020 21:14

I don't feel sorry for him. He's a victim of his own 'herd immunity' policy which involved letting people get CV (and a percentage die).

Imagine still trying to push this tired meme and thinking you come across as intelligent.

It is these types of posts that have proved for over a decade how out of touch MN political posters are, repeating headlines from the likes of the Independent or Mirror is somehow acceptable.

It's ok to be ill informed and spread twitter headlines, as long as it ties along political lines it won't be called out.

Peregrina · 15/04/2020 21:15

We have to blame Boris for the useless ones too, because he had a purge of most of the half decent ones before the last election.

Peregrina · 15/04/2020 21:17

Imagine still trying to push this tired meme and thinking you come across as intelligent.

We have seen plenty of "Corbyn would have been worse" tired memes on these threads. This despite the fact that the majority of us do not regret the fact that Corbyn is no longer leader.

user764329056 · 15/04/2020 21:28

Don’t be lulled into a false sense of security by his ‘hero of the hour’ act, he is a self-serving Tory leader and that will never change

VeryQuaintIrene · 15/04/2020 21:32

In what sense is this a "tired meme"? There are plenty of respectable scientific sites that state that relying on herd immunity for this particular disease is a dangerous and even unethical strategy.

ktp100 · 15/04/2020 21:36

I feel bad for everyone who has had Covid and hoped he would make a good recovery.

I'm afraid that's where my sympathies end. His dilly-dallying over lockdown has caused many more lives than neccessary. Plus he turned down the offer of involvement in an EU scheme for more vital equipment and PPE 3 times, all promises of more testing/tests have been empty and he seems more preoccupied with deflecting blame than getting more vital PPE for those NHS nurses who he says 'saved his life' - clearly he doesn't value their lives very much at all.

He is what he has always been, a liar and an opportunist.

PigletJohn · 15/04/2020 21:54

Being ill doesn't make you a hero.

Going to a hospital ward full of people with a fatal and infectious disease, and shaking hands with everyone, doesn't make you clever.

Voting against a pay rise for nurses doesn't make you a supporter of the NHS.

If he ever does something admirable, perhaps I'll start to admire him.

Let me know when (if?) that day comes.

CendrillonSings · 15/04/2020 21:54

In what sense is this a "tired meme"?

In the sense that it was never government policy, but is repeated as gospel by people who believe everything they read in the “Independent”...

EC22 · 15/04/2020 21:55

I’m sure he can take the criticism on the chin.

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