To feel awful for Boris

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A few people I know have said some awful things like ‘it serves him right’

I didn’t vote conservative, and to be honest I’ve never been a big fan of BJ himself.. but Christ do I feel awful for the poor man.

He must have thought it was going to be relatively easy, brexit was almost over and we just had to get through the last little bit and then the world fell into one of the biggest disasters in recent history...

He’s got to balance trying to save a big percentage of the population with making sure they have an economy to return to when this is over, he’s got to pull unprecedented amounts of money from thin air to support everyone through this time, everyone thinks they can do a better job and then to top it off he catches the virus himself and ends up hospitalised!

He just can’t catch a break! Whether you like him or not surely I’m not being unreasonable in feeling pretty bad for the guy?

who knew that the Chinese Communist Party was running the UK?

I think the fact that they allowed this virus to be unleashed on the world makes them a little bit more culpable than the Tories, wouldn’t you say?

Assuming you’re living in a reality-based world, of course

I think the fact that they allowed this virus to be unleashed on the world makes them a little bit more culpable than the Tories, wouldn’t you say?

Germany coming out of lockdown, far far fewer deaths, many times more tests and early intervention... you know the sort Johnson got but which you nor i would get.

So yes, add in the Care Home & PPE scandals, the Tories are culpable of gross negligence.

Only the most blind of Con supporters could possibly say they have done well.

would NOT get

Only the most blind of Con supporters could possibly say they have done well.

Wrong again, I’m afraid! As of April 11:

Matt Singh
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/Observer voting intention numbers provide no respite for Labour – the Conservatives are 26 points clear on 55%, their best poll share since March 1979 (immediately after the Callaghan government fell) and a new all-time record while in office

It is not the job of the Chinese Communist Party to preserve the health of the people of the United Kingdom, it is the job of our government.

I think few of us would deny that the Chinese Government made mistakes, but they aren't running this country. Yet. Although we were rapidly getting ourselves in hock to them.

Not read the whole thread but yes I do have feel for him.

I think this tory line up where going to do much spending after years of making up for the credit crunch and the dire mess labour left us in.

It would have been very good, and now I can't envisage where the money will be come from for the plans.

the dire mess labour left us in

Wow, you actually wrote that.

Dire mess Labour left us in? What, were they in Office until 2019? I think we should be told!

Only the most blind of Con supporters could possibly say they have done well

Wrong again, I’m afraid! As of April 11

Not really, just proves what bunch of easily led fools this nation has become.
As i said, look at Germany? similar economy, demographic etc but light years ahead of us in this crisis....... yet you believe Boris is this wonderful Churchian leader! he treated Cv with contempt and then got ill.... Brilliant!

And the Tories are still insisting that Brexit will go ahead as per previous deadline.

It will have to be no deal. Whose going to be able to negotiate any agreements now?

And how much worse is that going to make this current situation?

No. I don’t feel sorry for BJ.

Not really, just proves what bunch of easily led fools this nation has become.

You said only the most blind of Con supporters could approve of the Government.

I quoted polling that demonstrates the Government currently enjoys a 40-year record high in support across the entire population, and indeed an outright majority with Opinium.

You threw your toys out of the pram

40 years record high ? Turkeys voting for Christmas, we really do get the politicians we deserve.

dire mess labour left us in erm due to worldwide financial crisis and anyway the tories have been incumbent for10 years so have had a decade to get it right, but alas what's coming will be far far far worse than anything since the great depression and with the added hit to the economy of brexit you'll not be able to blame labour for any of it

I agree totally Seriouslyassounded. Where are all the NHS Supply Chain Managers who despite it being their job and being surrounded by experts (Doctors) don't seem to have managed to preorder supplies of PPE and oxygen then let the government take the blame ? Shame on them.

I quoted polling that demonstrates the Government currently enjoys a 40-year record high in support across the entire population, and indeed an outright majority with Opium

Opium? yes that cause it....

91% of the population support another 3 weeks of lockdown, the majority want Brexit and then voted in Bojo, the most inept leader since... well probably before we even had PM's.... a man whose knowledge of infection control is only exceeded by D.Trump's.. Yes even Trump managed to avoid catching CV19 as did every other world leader..... yet the UK think BJ is doing a great job!

God alone help us, though i suspect even he has given up on the UK and gone to the Pub.

J0nah Do you understand NHS procurement? Are you aware trusts have little control over finances or procurement?

Many wanted to plan post Cygnus but were prevented from doing so.
You can only procure if there is something available to procure. There is an oxygen shortage so instead of sourcing more, the guidance was changed centrally to support patients not having oxygen at the blood oxygen saturation levels where they would usually be given it.

This government had opportunities to join EU procurement scheme three times. They chose not to and handed the money to Dyson. Thus far 200 ventilators have been delivered- and not by Dyson.

I'm glad he's getting better, but he can trace so much of this chaos to his own opportunism to get into power. He is partially to blame for his part within the Conservative Party over many years in voting for cuts to NHS services, to social services, nurse bursaries, etc. etc.

Then he is absolutely to blame for deciding that Brexit was the way the wind was blowing, being untruthful to the public about what that all involved, and in surrounding himself not with the most intelligent, most capable people in his party, but a bunch of inexperienced or incompetent members whose only thing in common was that they shared his extreme right-wing views on Brexit and wouldn't waver.

Then he's entirely to blame, again, for employing Dominic Cummings as his advisor who has expressed extreme views, including those on euthanisation (and even employing someone who had written on just that kind of thing before it was discovered and he was fired).

Boris Johnson has surrounded himself with some people who hold abhorrent views of the world, who don't seem capable of feeling empathy with normal people.

So in that sense, no I don't feel at all sorry for his situation now (though I obviously was shocked and concerned for him when he was ill).
It was his decisions that have long-term and short-term led to thousands of people dying unnecessarily. It's not as much his fault right this minute while he's recuperating, but as soon as he's fully back to health and back to his job then his decisions need to be questioned and scrutinised.

Where are all the NHS Supply Chain Managers who despite it being their job and being surrounded by experts (Doctors) don't seem to have managed to preorder supplies of PPE and oxygen then let the government take the blame ? Shame on them

Are you really so ignorant about the way the NHS is funded to actually think the government would let NHS managers stockpile PPE and medicines?

If hospitals hadn't had stocks of PPE we would have had a crisis from day one, what we had was warnings resulting in a crisis. The govt is responsible for emergency planning.

I think Napoleon summed it up well, "In politics stupidity is not a handicap." Another quote attributed to him but apparently is from earlier in history is "Don't ask if a General is skillful, ask if he is lucky." Well Boris doesn't seem to be doing too well on the lucky stakes does he, we get a pandemic and not only does he get it he gets it really badly. The country is in lockdown for the first time ever, the economy is tanking and he is recovering in the country. Do we need a lucky general?

He practically sold his soul to the devil in return for becoming PM.

He embarked on a reckless course of action, lied and unlawfully prorogued Parliament to avoid scrutiny and get his own way.

Operation 'last gasp' anyone?

He pursued herd immunity theory and acted more slowly than other European leaders because he thought he knew better than the experts.

His government could not organise a piss up in a brewery, let alone adequate PPE for frontline staff or testing on the scale seen in Germany.

On a human level I am pleased he is on the mend and wouldn't have wished what he has personally been through on anyone. But his current situation is the product of his continued recklessness, folly and sheer incompetence.

Boris, the lying, cheating, racist, ableist, classist, sexist homophobe?

No sympathy here. I have the meekest gladness that he's recovered but much more is my embarassment that the rest of the world may think we wanted Trump's mini-me in charge.

I'll reserve my actual sympathy and concern for those without the silver spoon of privilege and wealth, the ones actually suffering in these times.

Beautifully put dazedandconfused - the meekest gladness - love it.

Johnson is a malevolent dick. He’s hiding now (again). He’ll emerge in time to catch the credit for the country emerging from lockdown. He deserves nothing but contempt and all those sad people who think he cares about them need to wake up.