To wonder how schools can realistically reopen when there is still a killer virus about with no vaccine?

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I’m not talking about them reopening now, in May or June or even September.

Who is prepared to send their DC into a school with hundreds of other DC, where social distancing and keeping a germ free environment is literally impossible, even with the best wills in the world, when there is a life threatening disease floating about which is highly transmittable and you have no guarantee it won’t make your DC severely ill or die.

Social distancing just between parents will be impossible at my DC’s school of over 500 where we all have to wait outside the main gates at pick up time.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m desperate for schools to reopen before my DC turn completely feral, but I don’t see how that can happen until we have a vaccine. We’re being told to stay home and keep our distance now due to the risk, the risk will be the same next month or in 5 months won’t it?

You understand it is about protecting people form catching it from your super it family , right?

It isn’t going to be possible to protect people, to the degree we are now, for a very extended period of time.

The lockdown period is primarily about buying us time, to have the health service better placed to deal with it.

Yet no one is talking about this!

We need to accept that this pandemic won’t be over in a few weeks. Months and years maybe

One childs death is a death too many imo.

i dont believe them numbers never-just not right

I may be wrong but I'm sure I read/heard somewhere that the low 'recovery' rate is due to lack of testing. Someone is only classed as recovered once a negative test is produced. Some of the people testing positive won't be inpatients and will be sent home to manage symptoms/recover there so aren't tested or recorded once recovered. Those in hospital will be discharged once they're well enough to continue their recovery at home (e.g., Boris Johnson) and again, won't necessarily be tested before being discharged so won't be recorded as officially recovered.

If you send all the children back to school, there will be a % of children who will die. Are you prepared to gamble its your child?

How can we send children back to school when the recovery rates are quite honesly appalling compared to other countries.

There are vast numbers in the UK who are recovered, but not included in stats because they were never tested to begin with.

neveradullmoment99 recovery rates on worldometer are low because recoveries aren’t being officially recorded. To be recorded as recovered, someone has to have had a negative test after testing positive (actually I think it’s two). Understandably, time and test resource isn’t going into this, but into diagnosing symptomatic patients.

It wouldn’t surprise me at all if the virus shows as reactivated in a person cells when they’re not showing symptoms. I get the same with glandular fever. I caught that thirty years ago and apparently you can only catch it once. Not true as it has reactivated in me periodically over the years and has showed up again in a blood test. The virus never actually leaves me in the same way the herpes virus reactivates when people are run down.

Plus the ones who were never tested at all, so can not be counted as recovered.

YABU to start yet another thread about when schools are going to open.

@TimeAintNothing I agree. My brother has recovered from it. He was hospitalised. They shockingly never carried out a test to check he was negative. He could have just gone back into society spreading it. He was in the hospital 7 days and the doctor said he didn't need to isolate.
I think its shocking they don't know the recovery rates.

Are you prepared to gamble its your child?

We’ll have to put food on the table and keep a roof over our family’s heads. So yes, some gambling will have to be done I guess.

Northern Ireland government has said schools won't restart until September at the earliest. My DSs teacher has sent home work for me to do at home with him up to the summer months.

You could also comfortably multiply the confirmed cases by 10 to give a true indicator of how many people are infected. That 88,000 only covers people who are either unwell enough to be tested or qualify for testing via other means (e.g., frontline workers). I'm not saying it's a pleasant illness to catch and everyone should definitely be taking infection control measures but realistically most people who catch it are going to feel shitty for a few days, less shitty for a few more after that, and then will get well again.

@LesFleursDuMal so you will happily spread it to other people who do have underlying health conditions. Very I’m alright Jack of you!

Because they will have to, because the risk of staying closed will become bigger than being open. More children are at risk due to their home lives than there are at risk of the virus. We will come to a point where the vulnerable will shield and the rest of us will have to get out there, I'm not saying it'll be May or even June, but it will be before there is a vaccine.

Its is shocking

You do realise there will be many, many thousands, maybe even millions, who will have had it and recovered and not been tested? You don’t honestly think 1 in 7 people are dying of it here? Surely?

I'd be interested to see the results if/when an antibody test becomes available and I agree with Boris Johnson vomited in my mouth a little bit there that such a test will be a game changer once - if ever - it becomes available.

No, what if find shocking is the uk do not have a clue @MigginsMs

And that other countries do?

They think only 4% of the UK population has been exposed to this virus so far. According to worldometers our population is 67,886,011. So 16,971,502.75 have apparently been exposed and a loose figure of 11500 of those have died. No idea what that is percentage wise.

Op
Did you send your child to school before they closed?
If yes then you sent them to school when there were illnesses that can potentially kill around.
Seriously even the most seemingly innoculous (?sp) childhood illness has the potential to kill

The lack of testing is shocking, in countries where there is a high rate of testing there is also a high rate of containment/control of spread.