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Why are teachers not teaching live lessons online

914 replies

Shouldistayorshouldimove · 10/04/2020 20:25

This is not a teacher bashing thread.

Talking online with another mum in my son’s class today, both ourDCs are in p1 (Scotland). She is outraged that teachers next term will be posting work online rather than actually teaching using Zoom etc. Her argument is that universities are doing it so why aren’t teachers? And how is she supposed to work from home and educate her children?

Personally I don’t think teaching a bunch of 5 year olds a live lesson using Zoom is going to be all that effective and would probably require quite a lot of supervision anyway. AIBU to think that tasks posted online are quite sufficient given the circumstances? So as not to drip feed, I am also working from home with 2DCs.

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Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 15/04/2020 13:35

People must have seen recent TV programmes, the news, the daily no 10 updates, even the One Show where they've been trying to do live links, with varying degrees of success. Some freeze, some there's no sound, some there's a delay - imagine that X 30 students and s teacher.

ChloeDecker · 15/04/2020 13:37

I’m so glad this thread has continued. I’ve just caught up and can’t stop laughing Grin

I have just spent the last three days working on producing 6 weeks worth of work for my Years 7 to 10 from Monday (easier for me with only one lesson per week at KS3 in my subject, harder for others) that includes step by step PowerPoints, tasks for them to type on, downloaded videos to support topics (TED talks etc) to reduce need for sustained bandwidth use, plus 5 offline tasks for each of the Years 7 to 9 for those without easy access to a computer. All to be emailed Monday morning (to help those who can’t access VLE easily) and not a recorded video/voice from me in sight!
This will also allow me to work with my Year 12s more closely from next week (still without recorded online lessons though).

Shows remote teaching can be done without Zoom/Teams/Adobe etc. if that is someone’s/a school’s preference, although it may not satisfy those with the desire to see teachers working Wink

Time for a cuppa methinks! Brew

fascinated · 15/04/2020 14:38

Thanks for the info re textbooks etc. Something to ponder.

mumsneedwine · 15/04/2020 15:08

I mute all the kids. They have to put their hand up for me to unmute. I am liking this new teacher power 😂

ineedaholidaynow · 15/04/2020 15:15

Future school lessons!

Why are teachers not teaching live lessons online
Tw1nset · 15/04/2020 20:10

Ofsted also hate them because they don't want students just learning from a book. They want individual lessons, with differentiation and more engagement.

I am not sure that is true under the new framework. There are schools known for using textbooks are being judged as outstanding. I think the tide has turned for complicated differentiation as well.

Tw1nset · 15/04/2020 20:15

Why would anyone hate a textbook?

Because it doesn’t create enough work for teachers.
The people in charge aren’t happy unless teachers are dancing around entertaining the class like they work for CBeebies despite evidence that sitting and quietly doing some work is pretty effective

Again this might be subject specific but that is not my experience either in my department which has a very good reputation to the extent that other schools come and visit us and the schools I have experience of. We teach very formal teacher led lessons often using textbooks or printed text, the students work at length independently in silence every lesson. There is time for discussion etc but little group work or edutainment going on.

TheEmojiFormerlyKnownAsPrince · 17/04/2020 17:21

Absolutely the tide has turned on differentiation. The ‘new’ way is through extra help and support. In fact what most of us have been doing for years.

CanICelebrate · 17/04/2020 17:24

I have to teach via video (my schools policy) and I can mute the whole class which is fab. They put their hand to speak. I video call them at the start of the lesson for 15 minutes and again at the end

noblegiraffe · 17/04/2020 17:43

Absolutely the tide has turned on differentiation.

God no. People are trying to, but as always in teaching, it’s attempting to turn an ocean liner.

Stuff like Bronze, Silver, Gold or Red, Amber, Green tasks, or sodding spiciness of chillies are everywhere. It’s the old learning outcomes all must, most should, some could shite in disguise.

Tw1nset · 17/04/2020 21:47

Stuff like Bronze, Silver, Gold or Red, Amber, Green tasks, or sodding spiciness of chillies are everywhere. It’s the old learning outcomes all must, most should, some could shite in disguise

I wonder how subject specific that is. We have some homework tasks that are levels of *spice"
but that is it. Certainly in lessons those days have gone.

TheEmojiFormerlyKnownAsPrince · 18/04/2020 08:31

Yeah, l think so too, that they’ve gone.

Where are we with not putting hands up to answer questions? We adopted this about 5 years ago, and now it seems like a grey area!

Rosieposy4 · 18/04/2020 21:04

I do hands down nearly all the time Emoji, I tell observers in my class that this is best practice Just in case they are in the grey zone

Tw1nset · 18/04/2020 21:53

Most of the time i say no hands up.

FreakStar · 20/04/2020 09:59

My school doesn't have a no hands up policy, but I wish it would. Some children have their hands up all the time- even when someone else is speaking or explaining. I think it indicates that they're not listening, they're always thinking about what they want to say. It also gives some other children permission to not participate and therefore to not have to think or engage themselves in the lesson because they know they won't have to answer anything if they don't put their hand up.

It should be reserved for things like 'put your hand up if you need the toilet', would like an apple etc.

(Obviously, i'm talking about young KS1 children here)

GuyFawkesDay · 20/04/2020 11:44

'Cold calling' all the way.

Doug Lemov is the go to expert on this, in his teach like a champion books and videos.

FrippEnos · 20/04/2020 11:51

Tw1nset

Certainly in lessons those days have gone.

We have circled back around to it.

BackBoiler · 20/04/2020 12:00

Our infant school has a daily email with set work and suggestions. The head teacher also posts videos of her reading a story, doing an 'assembly' but it is just a video of her and people can choose and when to watch.

noblegiraffe · 20/04/2020 12:03

Just saw on another thread a parent saying that other parents are discussing on social media things that they’ve seen going on in the background of other kids’ houses during live lessons.
Awful.

LolaSmiles · 20/04/2020 12:09

And yet there's a number of posters on MN who are arguing blindly that there's no safeguarding issues at all with online lessons and all schools should be doing it.

Zombiemum1946 · 20/04/2020 12:13

Not all kids have access to computers at the same , if at all. Pre recorded gives flexibility for those who have to share access with the siblings and working parents . She's being silly

londonmarathonhalfwaypoint · 20/04/2020 12:16

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Watertorture · 20/04/2020 12:20

I've been searching for the website that is offering lessons just now (not the bbc one) can anyone help? I thought it was Rose something but that's a maths one not a general one.

spanieleyes · 20/04/2020 12:24

I think you mean Oak Academy- they are using White Rose maths

spanieleyes · 20/04/2020 12:26

Try thenational.academy

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