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Why are teachers not teaching live lessons online

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Shouldistayorshouldimove · 10/04/2020 20:25

This is not a teacher bashing thread.

Talking online with another mum in my son’s class today, both ourDCs are in p1 (Scotland). She is outraged that teachers next term will be posting work online rather than actually teaching using Zoom etc. Her argument is that universities are doing it so why aren’t teachers? And how is she supposed to work from home and educate her children?

Personally I don’t think teaching a bunch of 5 year olds a live lesson using Zoom is going to be all that effective and would probably require quite a lot of supervision anyway. AIBU to think that tasks posted online are quite sufficient given the circumstances? So as not to drip feed, I am also working from home with 2DCs.

OP posts:

Hercwasonaroll · 13/04/2020 21:52

@MyDcAreMarvel Still think secondary teachers are paranoid?

LolaSmiles · 13/04/2020 21:54

Some of the teachers comments on here are very paranoid.
Or more accurately some of the teachers on here haven't thrown their safeguarding training out the window.

There's very few teachers who would argue online learning could never work, because there's things that can, and do, work well, but it strikes me that in a bid to throw something together quickly some schools aren't thinking things through properly.

Phineyj · 14/04/2020 07:36

It's not paranoia if someone's out to get you!

Frangipanini · 14/04/2020 09:46

I do know what you mean though OP. I pay 5K a term for my DC at a prep school and they did nothing before Easter. It was a joke. Then they sent us a bill for next term and did a U turn when many of us said no schooling = no fees to pay.

mumsneedwine · 14/04/2020 11:35

Paranoia ? No, just an aversion to teenage boys who like to waggle their willies and bums. My colleagues have already had this. I've had my voice added to a meme that has now been removed, and was actually quite funny, but could have been much worse. So rules are there for a reason, to protect staff who would like to still have a job after this is all over.

And I've spent my Easter break writing new SOW work for year 10 so we can teach the simpler stuff now. That and sewing scrubs - there are now medics wearing Disney and Spongebob scrubs for which I apologise. It was the material I was given.

Hercwasonaroll · 14/04/2020 21:09

@clavinova

I've just spent the last 2 hours uploading a 6 minute video due to Internet traffic being so heavy. This is one part of an "hours" lesson. I will then need to send the work, mark the work, respond to student questions via email. One hour of lesson in school is looking likely to be 4 hours of work for me as online teaching. This is why I link to pre made videos. They take FAR FAR less time and are much better quality!

I might have hit the wall of frustration with crap technology!!

TheEmojiFormerlyKnownAsPrince · 15/04/2020 08:29

I teach in one of the top state comprehensives. Ofsted outstanding. Safeguarding outstanding.

No online lessons-too unsafe in terms of safeguarding.

Piggywaspushed · 15/04/2020 08:41

My DH is supposed to be attending a day long training day today on Microsoft Teams. He has not one bloody clue what he is doing, having been delivered a laptop yesterday via social distancing shouting through a window.

This does not make him a bad teacher.

Clavinova · 15/04/2020 09:01

having been delivered a laptop yesterday via social distancing shouting through a window

Someone should have suggested that they speak to each other on their mobiles rather than shouting through a window.

Stellamboscha · 15/04/2020 09:09

Someone should have suggested that they speak to each other on their mobiles rather than shouting through a window.

Piggywaspushed · 15/04/2020 10:18

It was all a bit slapdash, but believe it or not, they had already done that as well...

Piggywaspushed · 15/04/2020 10:20

Anyway, my point was my final paragraph. Not knowing how to use IT or how to understand the gobbledegook does not make him a bad teacher.

mumsneedwine · 15/04/2020 10:24

@Piggywaspushed I hadn't even heard of Teams 5 weeks ago. I am now a bit of an expert. If an old technophobe like me can make it work he'll be fine. Does save a lot of time - I'm going to keep using it even when we go back for collecting work in. The on line videos are really helpful.

Piggywaspushed · 15/04/2020 10:34

I do think it is hard for maths. Plus also you have no idea how bad he is. If all kids had textbooks we really wouldn't be clamouring for this.

I am using Google classroom but certainly not doing Live lessons. The quality of work handed in has actually been really good.
Whatever anyone does the issue will remain over those who don't engage or fall behind.

Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 15/04/2020 10:45

Whatever anyone does the issue will remain over those who don't engage or fall behind.

I agree. My son is getting emails from parents complaining that their children won't get off their games consoles and do school work. Seriously, what can teachers do about that? Regardless of how many online lessons they provide, if parents won't make sure that their children comply it's all quite pointless.

fascinated · 15/04/2020 11:13

Yep. Turn off the WiFi!

fascinated · 15/04/2020 11:14

Why do kids not have textbooks? Still a bit confused about that.

noblegiraffe · 15/04/2020 11:15

Why do kids not have textbooks?

Schools can’t afford them.

Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 15/04/2020 11:17

Why do kids not have textbooks? Still a bit confused about that.

Reasons from when I was a school governor
They are very expensive
They go out of date quickly, especially when exam boards change specifications
The schools can't afford one for every child to have at home
They get ripped, drawn on, abused and are too expensive to keep replacing

Piggywaspushed · 15/04/2020 11:22

Also :

educational fashion and fads
the almost unique pressure on UK teachers to plan bespoke, differentiated lessons
Ofsted

Piggywaspushed · 15/04/2020 11:23

Ermmm.... if they turn off the WiFi they won't be able to do their exciting online lessons!!

ineedaholidaynow · 15/04/2020 11:29

I am involved with a number of Primary schools in an Academy Trust. Their book budgets were removed last year. They used to get books from a library service so would always get up to date books and would be rotated depending on the topics being studied. Most of the local schools are small village schools and no space to store a large quantity of books so this library service worked well as they only had to store one term's set of books. It was depressing for all the staff when all the books had to be sent back just leaving empty shelves. Not such a great look either when Ofsted come calling and do their deep dive in reading.

fascinated · 15/04/2020 11:32

Turn off the Wi-fi to the console, obviously!

Pieceofpurplesky · 15/04/2020 11:33

@fascinated because ofsted hate them.

fascinated · 15/04/2020 11:34

Printing stupid worksheets and paying humans to glue them in is quite pricey too, though. Is it not? How can they go out of date? Arithmetic , for instance, is arithmetic. The English language does not change at lightening speed. 2 subjects already covered.

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