Why are teachers not teaching live lessons online

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This is not a teacher bashing thread.

Talking online with another mum in my son’s class today, both ourDCs are in p1 (Scotland). She is outraged that teachers next term will be posting work online rather than actually teaching using Zoom etc. Her argument is that universities are doing it so why aren’t teachers? And how is she supposed to work from home and educate her children?

Personally I don’t think teaching a bunch of 5 year olds a live lesson using Zoom is going to be all that effective and would probably require quite a lot of supervision anyway. AIBU to think that tasks posted online are quite sufficient given the circumstances? So as not to drip feed, I am also working from home with 2DCs.

Lots of teachers twiddling their thumbs

Hahahahahaha! I wish.

Obviously not in Easter holidays either I am not mental

Zoom is riddled with Malware. My dd wouldn't use it. She's a cyber security analyst.

Well what are they doing in term time as not teaching?

@MsTSwift it's TEACHER SAFEGUARDING NOT THE KIDS. It's because dicks (some teenagers) record the teacher, alter the content and then post it online. It has ruined careers.

Please explain why a teacher recording their lesson so kids can be taught not in real time and in term time is such a hugely unreasonable suggestion?

I think secondary teachers are ( at least a few of my mates who teach secondary are at any rate, I can't speak for all secondary schools). I am not sure how it would work with primary. I would struggle to get mine to sit still long enough 😂

We're not in 1950s England with good manners any more

MsT teaching a primary lesson isn't a lecture though, is it? How long do you think a 6 year old's attention span is? And that's what recording a lesson would be. Ineffectual.

So they just send out work sheets then? And say “safeguarding” and that’s it?

Who's going to look after my 18 month old whilst I teach 5 hours of live lessons? 🤣

Thanks everyone, I hadn’t even considered safeguarding.

She seems to think her own DC will sit quietly and get on with whatever they’re told to do while she works in the other room.

I just can’t get upset about it. Work is being provided and teachers are available for questions. Everyone is trying their best.

@MsTSwift giving teenagers (or children in general) access to recordings of their teachers in that way is very open to abuse. It's dangerous for teachers as it opens them up to both abuse online and accusations with doctored "proof". That is one of the reasons that unions have strongly advised against it.

No ones suggesting someone try teach 30 5 year olds via zoom 🙄

But that’s exactly what the OPs friend IS suggesting.

I’m not talking about little kids. 10 plus. I see what the private schools are doing and the state schools are failing kids. And it’s kids from the most deprived homes that are really missing out because their own parents aren’t able to teach them or pay tutors to.

My son's teachers are teaching online. Every student has to log in, and the teacher is there to explain the work and answer questions.
I would add that the school had just won two awards for student progress, so maybe they are more 'on it' than other schools.
The teachers also have to mark the work and return it.

Ffs not every family has a computer and the teachers are breaking themselves to set lessons, and do the rota for the chid care for key workers.

I think they are worth double what they are paid and we should be grateful that they stayed in schools as long as they did. Some are vulnerable because of health conditions but they turned up every day to reassure their pupils when many of them were shit scared.
If any one of them has an extra day off to gather themselves, good. They deserve it.
I plan to give every teacher a bottle of wine in our primary when we get back in when they have to unpick my home teaching.

My kids each have a laptop which nobody else uses. So they could access live teaching, if necessary.

But they only have those laptops because I was lucky enough to snag the last two cheap ones in the shop the week before lockdown. They don't have smartphones. They're in secondary school.

There are many, many kids out there who don't have exclusive use of a device to enable live teaching. What about them?

We are teaching from home by setting work as I said in my previous post!!! But clearly you want to continue with your idea of us all sitting at home twiddling our thumbs so carry on
I object to people being critical who have never tried doing the job in a classroom or remotely from home.

Are we upset about kids missing a few weeks school (and it's only been 3 so far and my 2 were on easter hols for 2 of those) or about some bizarre outrage that teachers are getting paid still?

DD is in year 8 and for the two weeks before Easter had pretty much 75% of her lessons live via Microsoft Teams.

OP if her kids would sit quietly and get on with it then they already would be, and she wouldn't have a problem in the first place. What does she think a teacher on a screen can do that she can't from the same house?

Safeguarding actually is not a reason for not live teaching. Both DfE and NSPCC have released guidance on how to do it safely and are not saying to avoid it. You don't need to use cameras anyway.

Live teaching KS1 I would say rather too challenging as you need children to be able to access and follow the rules plus you have large class sizes. But then I'm in secondary.

I have three school age children. We are fortunate that both DH and I have laptops and there is a tablet in the house also so all three are able to do their work at the same time. If we did only have one laptop, how would all three manage to do zoom lessons? Teachers allocating work to be done when children and parents are able to is much better.

Most of the children I teach don’t have access to a laptop. They are accessing my work on mobile phones which wouldn’t work with zoom as the screen is far too small.