Why are teachers not teaching live lessons online

[Shouldistayorshouldimove]

This is not a teacher bashing thread.

Talking online with another mum in my son’s class today, both ourDCs are in p1 (Scotland). She is outraged that teachers next term will be posting work online rather than actually teaching using Zoom etc. Her argument is that universities are doing it so why aren’t teachers? And how is she supposed to work from home and educate her children?

Personally I don’t think teaching a bunch of 5 year olds a live lesson using Zoom is going to be all that effective and would probably require quite a lot of supervision anyway. AIBU to think that tasks posted online are quite sufficient given the circumstances? So as not to drip feed, I am also working from home with 2DCs.

Only in relation to that particular family. If I said the mother looked as though she visited the hairdressers regularly would that help? grin
Comments like this only make you look goady and poorly informed in equal measure.

Again, please explain how their mother's hair allows you to deduce their non-Pupil Premium status.

Are you suggesting that service families wouldn't have a nice kitchen? Or mum in a service family wouldn't be able to go to the hairdressers? Can you tell if a child is adopted based on their mother's hair?

For someone who apparently knows a lot about Pupil Premium you are really clueless.

The school could always spend the child's pp money on the £50 iPad - now there's a thought.

That's it I'm done. I know if I post want I now want to post I would annoyingly get banned. And I like my current user name. But I wish you luck in your magical land full of unicorns

the child's pp money

Clav pp money isn’t allocated to the child.

It's understandable why a lot of staff in the private sector leave.

"Employee rights in the independent sector"

"It is standard practice for teachers to be entitled to take all school holidays as paid annual leave, although your employer may reserve the right to require you to attend for one or two days in the holiday. The entitlement should be the same if you are a part-time teacher, although your pay will be no more than your weekly pay during term time."

neu.org.uk/advice/employee-rights-independent-sector

@Tonyaster

I guess if you do think that all teachers should be teaching their full timetables live everyday ...

The school could always spend the child's pp money on the £50 iPad - now there's a thought
Here's a thought, the money isn't the child's money.

I thought you knew loads about Pupil Premium.
😂🙄

@Beebie2

Who says so?

Ah, ok. Will hand in my notice then and someone else can work out all my Yr11 predicted grades. Fine with me.

And that same someone can annotate all the coursework going in for Yr10 Functional Skills. And they can take on answering the fifty e-mails a day.

And they can chase up all the sixth formers who aren’t bothering to reply to e-mail, never mind do work.

And talk to the exam board about aforementioned coursework.

This is that old problem rearing it’s head. Most prep and marking goes on outside of school hours. The actual lesson teaching is the least of it really.

I am agog at other teachers on here trying to defend putting experienced staff On unpaid leave because they can’t do video lessons on demand for the five kids who would actually log on. Pathetic, unsupportive and short sighted behaviour.

Ok, assuming I could put my hands on sixty five £ 50 iPads, what happens when the family has limited or even no internet access, not everyone does you know😔

@Clavinova PP budget is often spent by this time of the year on other stuff (trips, aids bought at the beginning of the year, subscriptions), so not much left for each PP student at this point. Not even mentining lots of PP students are not really struggling, and lot of those who are not PP can.
Your expertise equals zero in the matter of school budget or anythicn else school related.
After the lockdown, following your example, I will pass by lets say an arhcitect's office and will start lecturing all those people how to do their jobs better. Not that I will have any idea about what they do, but I will know better...

@Clavinova

Are you sure that you meant to post that.

It was actually relevant and correct

Excuse my horrendousspelling above, typying with a child on my keyboard :)

@Tonyaster

All nurseries round here are closed. Where am I supposed to leave her?

Also, she’s been having nightmares about her daddy getting sick because her little friend lost her grandmother to Covid. So she worries about leaving the house.

But no problem. I’ll just drop her off with a stranger while I stay home doing video lessons to five kids at a time.

No way. Video lessons aren’t the be all and end all.

@Clavinova
in all seriousness, your suggestion about the mother’s hair just makes me desperately sad.

A person who is so rich, that they pay 10 to 20 times the amount someone has available for food in a month, on their kid’s education, is making a judgement that if you can do your hair, you can buy tech for your kids.

The divide between rich and poor in this country just makes me want to throw up.

Clav pp money isn’t allocated to the child

The school doesn't have to spend the exact amount on an individual child (or any of the premium on one child) but it can use the money to provide a laptop, stationery, uniform, music lessons, revision books etc. for one child if it chooses to.

@BelleSausage just to clarify, it wasn’t me. It’s just the shit being spouted.

@Clavinova it can if there’s any left.

It amazes me that we are in a completely unprecedented situation where everybody is trying their best yet it's still not good enough.

What happened to being kind.

is making a judgement that if you can do your hair, you can buy tech for your kids

She said she couldn't afford to buy the boys a laptop each - I get that. The school lent them a laptop each.

Absolutely, it’s just horrific.

I just want to be back in school with my lovely class. I’m genuinely losing sleep, because I know some won’t be eating, some are in awful situations of domestic violence (5 women murdered so far) and people are losing their crap about the style of online learning.

My dds school are doing a mixture of live lessons and set work. All set at the time their lesson would be if they were at school. It seems to have worked pretty well so far and gives the kids some structure to the day.

It possible at their school as every pupil has a chrome book and the work is set work through google classroom. It wouldn’t be possible if they had introduced the chrome book scheme when my dd1 was in y7.

Buying laptops wouldn't be enough. We'd have to fund Internet and in some cases arrange for a phone line to be installed.

Then we have to hope that parents didn't try and flog the laptop for their next fix. Or start using the laptop for webcam work.

We'd also be handing over tech that parents probably don't have the ability to support their children with. Tech that wouldn't be looked after. Tech that in new and unfamiliar.

From what I can remember, the two boys (brothers aged about 12/13?)

Are you still going on about the report from Bexleyheath School you brought up in another thread (would love a reply to my question to you from it-way to leave me hanging, ha ha!!)?
You need to read up on the school and it’s demographic and local area to realise that the likelihood of those boys being middle class is pretty slim (and nothing wrong with that either).
Besides, the new ‘young’ Head of that school just started last year and has done a wonderful job working hard to ‘turn around’ what was one of the worst schools and started by overhauling the tech and spending a lot of money on it (they had a lot of PP children hence slightly more money than a lot of other schools) Just so happens this has benefitted them currently.
I also have colleagues working there and they are a) not using Zoom and b) had a fair few issues that have been forewarned on this and other threads.
Still, damn hardworking staff the lot of them and they deserved that praise on the BBC News Report after the bashing locally and in Press (read up on past scandals) they have endured for years.

@Clavinova I know that. I get the point. You posted the hair thing with a grin. You think it’s funny. I don’t.

@Beebie2

Sorry, I just went off on a rant. I knew it wasn’t you saying that.

I just despair at the people who think that video lessons are the best and only way. I think it is just too much for the kids. Most of our parents have been asking for less work, not more.