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If you had a second home, have you or would you go to it ?

235 replies

Lardlizard · 09/04/2020 09:54

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Watchagotcha · 09/04/2020 14:58

We do and we didn't.

The provision of health care is far better in my city. Ditto supplies of food, transport etc.

Plus I think it's really, really unfair for city dwellers to flood to small rural communities, bringing the virus and increasing strain on local resources - so putting at risk people who don't have the choice to move.

I know several people who have gone though. Some of them have medical conditions that make them more vulnerable, some of them were told by their Drs to go out of the city (and were given medical certs to this effect - needed to get through the police cordon here in France).

Macncheeseballs · 09/04/2020 15:05

Are 2nd home owners allowed to sleep with the locals

MinnieMountain · 09/04/2020 15:21

Because people typically don't move for a new job during a pandemic. Are you advocating going back to pre-industrial revolution, when hardly anyone moved areas?

MinnieMountain · 09/04/2020 15:28

That's ok @OnlyFoolsnMothers. I know a few people who have moved to London. It must be frustrating that half the world seems to want to move there.

NOTANUM · 09/04/2020 15:41

The attitudes towards second home owners and even tourists on here is quite an eye opener. It was the same in the comments section of various newspapers in the last few days.

I don't have a 2nd home but I am a regular tourist to one hotspot. I am not sure I will be back any time soon. Given we spend as much to get there and do our thing as it costs to go to a decent European destination, I am more inclined to go elsewhere. That will please many on here of course!

AnnUumellemahaye · 09/04/2020 15:52

All these people saying that second home owners should stay in the cities and not come to their OWN HOMES for fear of bringing the virus with them remind me of people in a half-full lifeboat kicking others away who are still trying to climb onto it, instead of helping them up.

You are happy enough to take their money in your shops and businesses when they are in residence usually though, aren't you?

LurksAscending · 09/04/2020 16:16

I'm glad city dwellers didn't say the same about refugees using under pressure resources in the cities

Did you really just compare second home owners to refugees? That's the most ludicrous thing I've read today!

And FWIW people living in Devon were not angry with Kirsty Allsopp for coming down to Devon, more the fact that she drove down with her children and husband whilst he had a positive diagnosis of Covid-19!!!

LurksAscending · 09/04/2020 16:19

You are happy enough to take their money in your shops and businesses when they are in residence usually though, aren't you

There is a profound difference between supporting locals and potential killing them with a virus.

MouthBreathingRage · 09/04/2020 16:25

I am more inclined to go elsewhere.

You'll be a tourist wherever you go. Most locals dont hate visitors, but they are just walking money machines more than anything. Tourism is a necessity to survival for most small communities, they dont want droves of people there, force a smile and small talk with those who think we should be oh so grateful for their money spending. Tourist are an imposition, but a necessary one. It's when people start buying second homes that the negative feelings amongst the locals begins.

MinnieMountain · 09/04/2020 16:37

The lifeboat analogy only works if the lifeboat is a leaky one which is only just staying afloat when half full.

FraughtwithGin · 09/04/2020 16:39

It would entirely depend on where these houses were.
If my first house were in the city where I work, I think I would stay there purely for convenience.
My second house would probably be where I live now, it is fine, but not awfully convenient for shopping etc. so I wouldn't be making a mad dash.

Pjsandbaileys · 09/04/2020 16:45

I don't have that choice but I do think I would be tempted if I had one, especially if it was from a small city premises to a rural one simply for the improvement in quality of lockdown life. Given I'm a stickler for the rules I wouldn't though, it must be difficult for those that have stayed knowing they have someone lovely to go but aren't selfish bastards and are putting other people ahead of their own happiness x

Sickofrain · 09/04/2020 17:04

I have a second home in Cornwall, that I will move to permanently one day. I have stayed away. The county I'm in has a relatively largely incidence of COVID and I didn't want to risk taking anything down there. Barnstaple hospital (our nearest one) is at max capacity in normal times.

Cornwall is under resourced, with too little infrastructure support as it is.

1981m · 09/04/2020 17:50

Mouthbreating- I certainly wasn't saying people should be grateful for the tourists. But the comment that they bring nothing to the area simply isn't true. I am taking more about people with a second home who tend to come down lots of weekends and for long periods rather than tourists who come for a couple of weeks. The two are very different in my opinion.

I can see how tourists who only come for a couple of weeks once a year are thought of as not bringing anything and mean jobs for the locals are short lived.

However, in my parents second home someone is there most weekends from March to October and at Christmas. Someone is there for a week to two weeks every school holiday, longer in the. summer. A contribution of More than just spending in the pubs and restaurants is made. My parents use local tradespeople throughout the year, they pay council tax, even though it's not their permanent home.

The house they have was a shack and falling down when they bought it. They used local building companies to completely rebuild it and furnish it. They improved the environment by completing overhauling the house. Plus, I feel people with second homes probably bring redevelopment to areas with restaurants and businesses opening to supply the market. This brings wealth, business and jobs to the locals. For example, down the road from my parents home there is an abandoned hotel that has been crumbling for years. It is finally being redeveloped into a hotel, bringing jobs, redevelopment and such to the area. Plus, making it a nicer environment for all.

turquoisedoor · 09/04/2020 18:07

@LurksAscending I didn't compare refugees to second home owners. It's not unreasonable to point out it's a slippery slope to start talking about denying healthcare to "non locals" as some posters have suggested. According to a PP her local doctors were refusing to register children because their parents were second home owners and not born and bred locals. It was similar on a previous thread. It's also not unknown for insularity to go hand in hand with racism.

If you'd read my posts you'd have seen I agreed with the view that people like Kirstie, who travelled with already infected household members, were wrong to do so. It's a shame city dwellers weren't afforded the same protection. Non essential travel was advised against too late for many of them.

Completely agree with you @NOTANUM it makes me rethink too. I'm proud of being from somewhere more welcoming to incomers and tourists.

AnnUumellemahaye · 09/04/2020 18:12

Totally agree with you 1981, it's exactly the same where my house is in France.

LurksAscending · 09/04/2020 18:20

But they aren't being denied healthcare if they are registered at a practice near their primary residence. We have 8 ICU beds in our hospital that serves nearly the entire county. If everyone with a second home travelled down, bringing the virus with them we'd be screwed. We have no other option, nowhere else to seek safety. If people are living near large hospitals, especially considering the nightengales being set-up, they should stay there.

Potterspotter · 09/04/2020 18:24

I don’t, but if we had one and we’d not already all been self isolating when the lock down was announced I’d have been tempted as you’re much less likely to catch covid in a rural location and so much easier to entertain children with a garden.

Thegreatfruittheft · 09/04/2020 18:27

Yes - my family has a second home and no, I will not be visiting until this is over. Yes, it would be lovely to be there and I could easily work from there but it is grossly unfair to take up scarce resources - food, medical supplies etc.

goldfinchfan · 09/04/2020 18:50

Most of us do not want your money.....we don't want tourists.....but others have come and make money from the hordes visiting. and we do not have many resources, Medical help is scarce
So please stay away. It is a myth that rural communities depend on tourism.

AnnUumellemahaye · 09/04/2020 18:52

Most of us do not want your money.....we don't want tourists.....

Right. So you'd rather be poverty stricken waiting for the boat to come in.

Remember where you were, before you criticise where you are now.

MamaBearLockdown · 09/04/2020 18:55

The attitudes towards second home owners and even tourists on here is quite an eye opener.

People moan but they moan even more if the tourists stop coming.
"we don't want your money" hahaha yeah right.

LurksAscending · 09/04/2020 19:00

we don't want your money" hahaha yeah right

if it means my DH and DS are less at risk of death from this virus or have a hospital bed if they need one, I don't give a shiny shite if I never see a tourist again.

MamaBearLockdown · 09/04/2020 19:04

You might not - but you'll be pretty much the only one anyway.

people who own a property are not "tourists" anyway. It's their home too.

LurksAscending · 09/04/2020 19:06

Then they can live in them all year round, not during a global pandemic when its more 'convenient' and their 'I'm all right Jack' mentality isn't risking the lives of people who have no other choice. Pure selfishness.