AIBU to think Angela Rayners comments are very unhelpful?

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Angela Rayner has said today that it is unreasonable of Matt Hancock to say people shouldn’t sunbathe in parks etc as some people live in flats/ don’t have any outside space.
While I’m sure it is very hard for those in this position, I think her blatant attempt To undermine the guidelines and turn it into a class issue is unhelpful and encourages people to gather outside in public areas directly contravening guidelines.

Of course you don’t think you’re being unreasonable, OP. Nobody ever does. I think you are.

Yes, well, the blasted sun only shines about 6 times a year in the this soggy country so I doubt anyone considered it. How about wading through floodwater OP? Got an opinion on that? What should those poor souls flooded out a few weeks ago do? Sit in their soaking houses to please you? Leave them to rot? Rayner's got a point; she should have spelled it out for those determined to misinterpret her.

smile how dare you accuse me of lying.
I don’t work for the NHS with actual patients so it wasn’t relevant to my point until someone suggested I was annoyed for no reason.
Where do you live then smile where there are no streets and no benches at all?

longwayoff
They covered emergencies in the guidelines actually. Read them.

smile apologies I misread you said there was nowhere to walk to where you could sit down. Doubt you live in London then. There are benches everywhere, particularly in the estate areas.

Absolutely will not be reading guidelines. I don't share your level of obsession.

I’m from London and I know most of it very well. It is full of benches.
As I said me being a key worker wasn’t relevant to the thread so I didn’t say it, why would I bother to bring it up if it wasn’t true. Apart from a few vitriolic posters such as yourself most people agree with me and the vote is overwhelmingly in my favour So I didn’t need to lie to curry favour.

That is not to say that having a brief seat in the park (though benches are not a great idea) is the same thing as lolling around sun bathing for hours.

longwayoff they are posted in the thread so it’s not difficult.
How can you argue that Angela Rayner is not encouraging breaking guidelines if you don’t even know what they are?

It's very normal for there not to be benches outside of London. My city has hardly any nowadays, even in the main shopping centre, because they don't want homeless people sleeping on them. We used to have lots. It is something I am particularly conscious of, as taking a disabled parent shopping who regularly needs to sit down concentrates your mind on how awful our infrastructure is for the disabled.

smile actually look up my posting history if you want and then apologise for accusing me of lying about being a key worker please.

I’d rather be confined to a single room for a few weeks than have to live with our current wishy-washy lockdown for the next 6 months which is a possibility if people don’t start being sensible.

pothole that may well be true. Which is why I said that the poster did not live in London.

OP, what is your own living situation?

That would be interesting to know

Sorry the stuff about whether there are benches in a posters city and whether I am a key worker are irrelevancies and clogging up a thread where people are making important points so I’m going to bow out for a while.

HaddawayAndShite A few weeks?

You are very optimistic

A few weeks would be easy

But what would that do? It is possibly going to be on and off for 12-18 months

Personally I think it IS a class issue, and that those in flats or tiny homes are much more affected

Close the parks. It’s the only way. I live in a 2-bed flat, with two children. When we need to get outside we walk round the block, in circles. Ouf for exercise we do a workout in the front room. We’re in France and have been in proper lockdown for 3 weeks now. I’m stunned at the behaviour in the UK, but it’s not helped by the gift bring so lackadaisical and ambiguous in what they say and do.

Gift = government

Yes we are more effected by not being able to sit in our gardens and that thought is miserable for months on end (and yes I do have bouts of depression)

But it’s nothing compared to the idea that if we relax restrictions that more people will suffer more people will die more of stress for myself and my nhs colleagues especially those on the front line

This really isn’t the time for class wars we are all suffering in our own way this virus does not discriminate

I really wish the exercise rule was changed to '1hr of fresh air a day'. Who cares whether you're walking or sitting down, as long as you try to minimise the time spent outside the house.