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Queens speech

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Imfinallyhappy1 · 04/04/2020 23:05

Am I the only one who actually couldn’t give a shiny shit what she has to say at this time.

People are dying , everyone is affected so the last thing we need is a rich old woman sitting in her ivory castle asking us to stay calm.

It’s really wound me up, it’s constantly being mentioned on the news!

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blueluce85 · 06/04/2020 12:15

Not sure if it's been said... But i couldnt give a shiny shit what you think either... But yet here you are posting something downright nasty about someone who tried to do a good thing for our country.....

DateLoaf · 06/04/2020 12:21

Yes it is a national shame that ten years on from the 2010 Marmot report:

people can expect to spend more of their lives in poor health

improvements to life expectancy have stalled, and declined for the poorest 10% of women

the health gap has grown between wealthy and deprived areas

place matters – living in a deprived area of the North East is worse for your health than living in a similarly deprived area in London, to the extent that life expectancy is nearly five years less.

www.health.org.uk/publications/reports/the-marmot-review-10-years-on

All are linked to poverty so as far as I am concerned are the result of successive coalition then Tory governments’ austerity.

StoneofDestiny · 06/04/2020 12:24

Of course there are exceptions to any rule - my point was Bath lived a long life in luxury - not a bad lot, However the stars for England alone (not UK) show wealth is a general indicator of likely (average) age of death.

The Office for National Statistics data show that life expectancy at birth of males living in England’s most deprived areas was 74.0 years in the years 2015 to 2017, whereas it was 83.3 years in the least deprived, a gap of 9.3 years. Women in the least deprived areas of England were expected to live 78.7 years in 2015-17, while those in the most affluent were expected to live 86.2 years, a gap of 7.5

Lynda07 · 06/04/2020 14:00

"Anyone who plays golf has a bit of money spare! Gold club membership or fees cost money over and above paying for food and bills never mind running a car to get there"

Rubbish. Lots of people belong to gol fclubs who are not well off and anyone who joins in old age has reached a point where they can afford to indulge themselves a bit. Don't be resentful. You might reach old age, mortgage paid off and can relax at last.

audreysview · 06/04/2020 14:49

I think she did a fab job. I hope I am like this at 93!

Most people are knackered at that age due to a lifetimes hard work, poor healthcare and basically having to manage without being waited on hand and foot, so unless you can bag yourself a prince it’s highly unlikely.

Have to laugh at those of us not falling for the BS and having the cheek to give different opinions to the royalists as miserable. Grin The irony of calling us miserable whilst you’ve got the richest woman in the country holed up in a castle all to herself whilst the rest of the country practically falls apart......and offering not one scrap of financial aid. THATS what I call miserable. Not just miserable but unbelievably mean. I’m shocked at the lack of outrage tbh.

If the queen really cared she’d do a lot more than a speech read from a script, (which was craftily done to play on sentiment with all that harping back to the war days), it’s money that’s needed not fake sincerity.....Absolutely disgusted.

Alsohuman · 06/04/2020 14:52

whilst you’ve got the richest woman in the country

She’s not. She’s the 17th richest.

managedmis · 06/04/2020 14:59

It's fair to say she's the most influentual woman in the country. If you want to split feathers over wealth

Srslydontgiveacrap · 06/04/2020 15:00

Too little, too late - as per usual. She's always had that arrogant streak, like when Diana died

audreysview · 06/04/2020 15:01

Not sure if it's been said... But i couldnt give a shiny shit what you think either... But yet here you are posting something downright nasty about someone who tried to do a good thing for our country.....

Perhaps I missed something, what did she do apart from reading a script written by someone else whilst holed up in a castle with her own servants? ........Nothing? Oh ok thought not. But talking of doing good things for the country.....isn’t that what we do for her? Like pay for her and her family’s lavish lifestyle. Ffs she’s read a 5 minute script, how much effort did that take, and people are all swooning. Unbelievable.

audreysview · 06/04/2020 15:03

whilst you’ve got the richest woman in the country

She’s not. She’s the 17th richest.

Oh well, the richest benefits recipient we’ll say.

Mamamia456 · 06/04/2020 15:05

audreysview - See my earlier post - The Queen writes her own personal speeches. They are not scripted.

pigsDOfly · 06/04/2020 15:19

I don't get all the swooning.

Several posters saying 'she's amazing', 'she does so much for us' and other such rubbish, never seem to feel the need to qualify exactly what it is that makes her amazing and exactly, what's she's done for us.

She's lived a life of unadulterated luxury and indulgence. She's done nothing other than make a few speeches from time to time and shake a few hands, oh and wave from time to time. How does that make her amazing?

All this forelock tugging because she makes a five minute speech.

Someone said she mentioned about children being evacuated during the war. Were we supposed to think she was sharing their experiences of all being in it together?

Trust me, she knows nothing about what it was like for the nation's children being torn from their families to be sent God knows where to some strange family who might or might not have treated them kindly.

I imagine she was tucked away safely at one of their many homes and well looked after by her usual nanny and servants.

Exoffice · 06/04/2020 15:28

all those saying that she is doing a 'great job' - what is she actually doing as part of her job? which bits are so great and amazing for the general plebs?

ravenmum · 06/04/2020 15:32

This is what the Queen did in WW2:
time.com/5287517/world-war-ii-queen-elizabeth-photo/

TheGirlFromStoryville · 06/04/2020 15:34

Up until fairly recently I was ambivalent about the royals, probably with slightly vague republican leanings.
I read Norman Baker's book 'And what do you do?' about the Queen and the rest of the family and to say it was eye opening was an understatement!

Mamamia456 · 06/04/2020 15:37

Pigsdofly - You really don't have a clue do you?

audreysview · 06/04/2020 15:40

Mamamia How do you know that, you believe everything they tell you? But ok I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt. She wrote that script herself, not much else for her to do is there. Gets waited on hand and foot. I actually thought the speech was (apart from no pledge of any financial aid) it seemed to be full of comparisons with the old days and making out we’re once again all in it together, like some kind of united front. NOTHING could be further from the truth, She cares about herself, don’t kid yourself any different.

Brefugee · 06/04/2020 15:50

Haven't (yet) RTFT but I wanted to comment on the point @derxa made

But there is an even bigger pile of non-anecdotal evidence that she detested Nazism and propped up the wobbly royal family, particularly her mentally vulnerable husband, at a time in history when the nation needed it.

It is my (completely unfounded) belief that Queen Mum only hated the nazis because Wallace Simpson so loved them. And that if Simpson and Edward VIII had been anti-Hitler, history may have been very different.

Mamamia456 · 06/04/2020 16:04

audreysview - It's common knowledge that she writes her own Christmas speeches and when she addresses the nation as they are personal messages so they are from her heart, Even with more public speeches written by aides she still adds her own personal touches to them if she feels the need.

I thought you weren't going to watch her speech anyway or do you secretly like her.

audreysview · 06/04/2020 16:15

Mamamia I know I said I wasn’t going to watch her, but I was in the room when a family member had it on. Should have walked out really. Knew it’d wind me up. Ok I half believe you about the speeches, but I do think she will get lots of advice about the ‘mood of the people” etc. But that still doesn’t impress me. She will say what she thinks the people want to hear, anything to keep the plebs happy. She’s well aware it doesn’t take much.

JonesyCat40 · 06/04/2020 16:16

Some pampered woman makes short speech in her one of her Castles while being looked after by servants, and telling the rest of us chin up. Fucking shameful.

Exoffice · 06/04/2020 16:18

so they are from her heart

😂😂😂 you gotta be pretty gullible and naive to believe that.

Alsohuman · 06/04/2020 16:26

^About 24 million TV viewers watched the Queen's broadcast to the nation on Sunday, according to overnight figures.
In a rare speech, the monarch thanked people for following government rules to stay at home and praised those "coming together to help others".
The message was seen by 23.97 million viewers, making it the second most-watched broadcast this year.^

When nearly half the country watches, it seems there are plenty of people who do value it.

Mamamia456 · 06/04/2020 16:26

audreysview - Don't believe you, I reckon you intended to watch it all along. Sitting there drinking tea in your best bone china whilst waving your union jack flag. 😁

audreysview · 06/04/2020 16:33

www.goodreads.com/book/show/51877169-and-what-do-you-do

Just a few reviews from that book mentioned above by Norman Baker

“And what do you do......the stuff the royals don’t want you to know”.

“Never have I read a more damning expose of a rotten and rort-filled system.”

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