Why is there so much hostility against teachers on MN?

[Bulb1976]

Is it jealousy? The daily teacher bashing threads on here are ridiculous.

Do you blame us for schools closing?

Because they are paid £££, have a short working day, long holidays, and it's a simple undemanding job. Or at least that's what it looks like.

I was told this once by a Vicar, those who only work from 11 til 12 on Sundays!

I have the utmost respect for all of my childrens' teachers, they do a really amazing job!

I dont see that much hostiity towards teachers tbh. Ive seen the odd post complaining about maybe an individual teacher , but overwhelmingly I think people are very positive about most teachers.

Teachers are still teachers outside working hours.

God knows,but be grateful you aren't a social worker OP!

Social media effect innit. People generally go on SM to either whinge or brag or combine the two. So parents come on here to bang on about things going wrong and how terrible the school is because of one event in 13 years that pissed them off, teachers are pretty much always "broken" or otherwise on the edge of breakdown due to workload (none of the teachers I know irl talk like this) - both stances especially if they have the whiff of catostrophisation about them which people often adopt on SM will engender a degree of hostility from others thinking "Jesus. Really?" The covid 19 thing definitely tops it up - endless SM screeds from people talking about how they're risking life and limb by sitting socially distanced in a hall with five kids in it once every three weeks on a rota.

Basically no one ever posts about "well that was another average day" and whoever perceives themselves to be on the other side of your whinging/self aggrandisement will dislike you doing it.

I'm grateful to my children's school. We are doing the work set as best we can (key worker still working from home at the same time). We have exchanged a few nice messages. No hostility here

6 of one and half a dozen of the other. Or did you want agreement and validation rather than an honest answer?

Because there is a natural conflict between teachers of 30, and parents wanting the best for their own.
Because some teachers think that they're the only source and arbiter of all learning, standards and discipline. Some teachers don't like other people being right occasionally.
Because some parents think that all learning, standards and discipline are middle class pretensions.
Because teachers are generally drawn from the middle classes and represent authority, which is increasingly remote from and judgemental of the daily realities of most working people, as are many teachers themselves. Schools look increasingly like prisons now.

Oh, and I'm fine at home with my dc thanks. Busy googling for next week, or I wouldn't be on here so much .

Because it's an easy job with fantastic holidays, short working hours and is family friendly. That and it being the sort of job that anybody tom, dick or harry can do without any additional training beyond GCSEs.

Because they are paid £££, have a short working day, long holidays, and it's a simple undemanding job.

I think the OP is asking about teachers in the UK. Their conditions are very different to the ones you are familiar with in La la land.

Teachers are amazing!

( I'm not a teacher nor am I related to any).

I'm assuming blackberry is joking and quoting the common stereotype, donquixote.

Yes but everyone seems to think they know what a teacher does. Their only experience being that when they were children they went to school themselves.

I wouldn’t dream of lecturing an accountant or lawyer or doctor how to do their jobs yet many parents think it’s perfectly right to do that to teachers.

I won’t lose any sleep over it but I worry about my colleagues and the newly qualified staff who have to take this kind of abuse.

I think you tend to get a few aggressive dick heads dominating on any subject. It's why i like the voting. It shows what people really think and often goes against the more vocal, aggressive posters on a thread. Others may not post as they know they'll get shouted down and can't be bothered with it

Most people here think butter wouldn't melt in the mouths of their DC.

Every schooling problem must therefore be caused by the teacher, not their precious offspring.

I think the reality might be a bit different!

Well I’m hoping that having spent time with their own kids by September they may have a new respect for teachers and what we have to go through.

@ThrowingGoodAfterBad yes, I think that is bang on

I'm assuming blackberry is joking and quoting the common stereotype, donquixote.

I assumed that too, based on her hyperbole. My reply isn't to blackberry, it's to the text I quoted in my post from upthread (although the one I'm quoting could be sarcasm too).

I guess some teachers are great, others not so great. Like all other jobs, the type of job you do doesn’t necessarily define you as a lovely person. I’ve had two DCs through the school system and have seen some teachers both end of the spectrum. But I think knocking someone just because they are a teacher is obviously wrong.

Because surely their little angel would NEVER be a nightmare or cause a problem. There will be a lot of shocked parents over the coming weeks about what little Jimmy will do. They need to remember there's about 30 in the class as well!

Tin hat on...

My only issue with teachers is that many - not all, but many - are convinced that they are the most over-worked, most stressed, most under-paid people in the world. They might be, I don’t know. I’ve never done it. But those who say that have usually never done anything else or if they did it was many years ago. My job is also extremely stressful (and I’m currently on a massive pay cut but I’m just glad I have a job - 20 colleagues were made redundant on Friday - the job security of a teacher would be nice but I live the job I do) and I work very long hours. But I knew that when I signed up for it. I knew it would be hard work. And I’m not scared of hard work. I’m not saying my job is more stressful than a teacher’s job or any other job. But it seems to me it’s only teachers who seem to think they know exactly what everyone else’s job is like and they know for certain that they have it worse, even if they have never done any other job. But if anyone suggests otherwise they get shot down in flames.
All the arguments they use for why their job is so awful can be applied to any other job.

Because people like @MikeUniformMike think it's undemanding and easy.

When it's not, it's emotionally and physically tiring.
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Of course I wasn't being sarcastic, everybody knows it's a piss easy job

The job security of a teacher? Sorry but you have no idea what you are talking about.

Teachers are reliant on their results, poor results (it doesn’t matter if your class is low ability) means a teacher can, effectively be performed managed out. This is what is annoying when non teachers think they know what goes on.

Bulb1976
Well I’m hoping that having spent time with their own kids by September they may have a new respect for teachers and what we have to go through.

For some people it won't change their opinion, for other maybe till the end of the first week/detention.

I have found most people respect teachers, the position if not the person.