Rest uk should follow NI and Irish Republic on total lockdown

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Ireland and now Northern Ireland have stated that people should only leave house for essential work and food for next two weeks. IABU to think rest UK should be following?
YANBU uk should lock down
YABU uk should NOT lock down

@AlpineSnow

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I am not impressed much by the UK sorry now.

Totally agree, it all seems a bit chaotic, and some people are not taking it seriously. Well done Ireland, taking sensible moves, and well done the Irish for working together and complying with them.

Here are some of the ways the Gardai have been helping local communities this week:

www.thejournal.ie/good-news-ireland-coronavirus-an-garda-siochana-5058726-Mar2020/

I'm on the west coast of Ireland and our local tourist office has been repurposed as our community response centre for the duration of the pandemic. There is a helpline for anyone who needs assistance with the collection of groceries, prescriptions from the pharmacy, hot meals delivered, or is just isolated and would like a chat. They are working closely with the local GPs, Gardai and other community groups to help in whatever way they can.

As mentioned above, from next week postal workers will be checking in on vulnerable people and picking up and delivering their letters and packages for free.

That exercise freedom will thousands of lives. Neither Italy or Spain have allowed it and look where they are.

Nobody will die if they cannot run or go for a long wLk walk for a while, they just need to adapt to limitations and exercise differently.

In the same way, dogs will survive if they are just walked around the block or let out to the back garden.

Is Ireland in the UK now? If not what does 'rest of the UK mean?

I am very happy with the response by the UK's Government and our experts.

Worry about your own country, we will worry about ours. There's less than 5 million people in Ireland - less than the population of London and 68 million in the UK so figures are naturally different.

I am not impressed much by the UK sorry now

I'm devastated to read this - let me translate that for you - I couldn't give a fuck.

Our 2 tier health service (public patients and insured patients) has effectively been nationalised this week.

Childcare has been taken over by the state for the time being.

Who knew Fine Gael were the socialist heroes we needed 😁

The Irish 'lockdown' is virtually the same as in the Uk. It was also done incrementally here in the UK. The vast majority of British people support it. Im happy with the way Boris Johnson addresses the public. In Ireland you look after the vulnerable by 'cocooning' them....here we call it 'shielding'. We have community groups set up to deliver food and medicine to the vulnerable....we also now have a nationally organised volunteer programme to support the vulnerable and the health service. The police have powers to fine and arrest those breaking the rules. As of this week they are also introducing check points to stop and question drivers. Schools are open for a very limited number of children, including extremely vulnerable children at risk of abuse...to safeguard them. A very small minority try to bend the rules....as they do in Ireland. Hardware stores are closed here. A wide range of benefits and employment rights have been introduced to protect people from poverty.

There is really NOT a lot of difference in the way the 2 countries are managing things!

May I be so bold as to suggest that perhaps some of the Irish media is sensationalising what's going on here in the UK. And that's causing ye all to panic about what's happening here?

And also....this isn't a competition about who's doing lockdown best.

I'm British but most of my family are Irish, living in Ireland. I hope that we can minimise death and suffering in both countries.

The large majority of British people do respect the elderly.

There is a lot of ignorance, stereotyping and judgment towards the UK on this thread. Racism generally does tend to increase when people are scared.

The Irish 'lockdown' is virtually the same as in the Uk. It was also done incrementally here in the UK. The vast majority of British people support it It is not now all non essential stores are closed. DP was still working in retail like many others all retail stores describing themself as essential are closed unless they sell food.
No more JD sports or euro shops Claiming to be essential.
Public transport only to be used by essential workers, the essential worker list is very strict. Gardai will be stopping anyone to show they've a valid work letter, we've shops marked out and only a few at a time to enter.

YABVU.

People are relying on getting some air for their sanity, especially those of us with young children! We’re restricted and miserable enough!

@naughtycat I think the huge difference is that Irish people just got on with it. The number of threads here moaning about not being able to go out, bare shelves, school closing etc have been shocking. People complaining about their civil liberties. In Ireland everyone just figured out how sort it out and stayed home. Our shops are full because no one panicked and everyone is being respectful of the need for everyone to get supplies.

I think people can cope without going out for exercise for two weeks it won’t be two weeks, once they install harsher measures theres no going back.
This is hard enough for people with young children, people in council estates- stop telling them it’s easy to walk round a tiny living room and that’s the same as a walk outside- it isn’t. This is hell- and tbh I couldn’t give a crap that we are in it together, it doesn’t make it any less awful for individuals.

It’s been left too late here, full lockdown should have been done by now.

People are just taking the mickey, far too many going about as normal whilst other people stay home or try to work from home with small children.

We will end up on full lockdown due to selfish people and it be too late

It’s pretty similar to what we have already.

I don't know anyone who isn’t complying. 👍🏻

(I also work in hospital)

Also can non experts stop pretending to be experts - even is at hospital aren’t experts yet

That said, I prefer Boris' more laid back approach as it suits me! I don't enjoy having my civil liberties obliterated! It is only for a short time.
I think Boris will regret not stopping non essential businesses, judging by the tube rides in London the death toll will be catastrophic in a fortnight. All these minium wage workers without protection he should be ashamed.
Whoever made social decisions in the UK based on money should be shamed. Cheltenham, the rugby, the liverpool match, stereophonics concert. I hope for us all it is not to late on either side of the water.

To add should have quarantined all those selfish bastards returning from Cheltenham though they are mostly rich so that couldn't happen.

Remember the media are not representative.

They’re taking photos of people doing their daily exercise & criticising them online.... (sadly the police are also doing this)

Remember that even beauty spots in the UK have locals. Those locals are getting shamed for walking their dogs!

I live near a beauty spot and a city - it is quiet!! Very very quiet.

If there’s a large estate, and everyone goes for their daily exercise- it will look busy. Doesn’t mean people are ignoring the rules.

As a nation we need to stop reading bullshit like the Daily Mail and have more faith in each other.

(Yes there will be SOME who ignore the rules. But these people are minority!)

And if London is SO busy and 2/3 weeks ahead the rest of the UK then why isn’t London getting a tighter “lockdown”

Bucketgarni thanks the Ireland stats! That makes sense

I'd agree with a far stricter lockdown, but I fear it may be too late now regardless.

Ds has autism / complex neuro needs so we haven't allowed him out at all even for a short walk, apart from the back garden. What we did do was dig out the exercise bike from the garage and while the weather's been nice he's been using that in the garden. Puts his headphones on, closes his eyes and imagines he's out with his pals on a long bike ride.

Some people are selfish or just idiotic not sticking to the advice given. I'd agree that Ireland seem far better prepared than here in the UK and Varadker is a calming presence.

Good luck to all, think we'll need it.