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Rest uk should follow NI and Irish Republic on total lockdown

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Waveysnail · 28/03/2020 22:37

Ireland and now Northern Ireland have stated that people should only leave house for essential work and food for next two weeks. IABU to think rest UK should be following?
YANBU uk should lock down
YABU uk should NOT lock down

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OhMargo · 28/03/2020 23:16

Exercise is good, but not essential these times. People need to understand that and walk around the house/flat, the garden, up and down the stairs if you feel the need.

I admire Ireland, they closed schools pubs and all that way before UK. And people are observant of the so called lockdown now.

Had to be done, and it is being policed by community effort now. Well done.

They may not escape, but will not be castigated for not doing the right thing quickly anyway.

HuntIdeas · 28/03/2020 23:18

I think the main difference is that you can only go out to work if it’s essential, whereas over here things like big building sites are still opening, risking people at work and travelling to work (as well as risk to essential workers having to use same public transport)

DameHannahRelf · 28/03/2020 23:20

I'm in N.I, are we still allowed to go out once a day for exercise? Do we have to stay within 2km of our homes for exercise, or is that just Ireland atm?

Iwannabeadored20 · 28/03/2020 23:20

Yes, I get the impression that everyone is onboard and pulling in the same direction and aware they need to protect the vulnerable.

Well done, Ireland.

Barbararara · 28/03/2020 23:21

What has changed in the last couple of days in Ireland is that the list of “essential workers” has been cut back massively. Shops and services that has been open, eg opticians and hardware are now shut and providing emergency deliveries only. DH’s business was “essential” on Friday and a day later is reduced to skeletal staff.

Our govt has been very clear at each stage what was being asked of us and the word “lockdown” has only just been applied.

A few days ago it was still possible to see family, and socially distance, now we’re not to meet with anyone outside our immediate household.

I think that the gentle rhetoric, short time frames (they only talk about two weeks at a time), and emphasis on pulling together as a nation is having a positive effect. In the U.K. the elderly were told to isolate for 12 weeks which is as stark as a prison sentence. Here, we are “cocooning” our old folk, mobilising local authorities and the postal service to make sure they have what they need and there is a great sense of kindness and community spirit.

Each time the Taoiseach has addressed the nation there has been a hint of what’s coming next, so each new development isn’t as much of a shock. And it feels like they are following a plan, not just reacting to a worsening crisis. This weekend we’re flying supplies from China and it makes sense to galvanise the country now for a big effort to maximise the efficiency of precious medical supplies.

I don’t think the U.K. are on the same track so a tighter lockdown isn’t necessarily the right thing at this moment. And it just can’t work without massive cooperation from the public. So no, I don’t think the timing is right yet for the U.K.

nowaitaminute · 28/03/2020 23:22

Yes schools COMPLETELY closed here for the last 2 1/2weeks, we are heading into week 3 of homeschooling with what seemed like a LOT less complaining tbh. Every single part of my social media is FULL of uk parents complaining about school being open, school being closed, the teachers, lack of work, too much work, am I a key worker, why am I not a key worker? It's like the uk Made it so fucking complicated from the beginning...WHY!!

Remingtonsteeleswife · 28/03/2020 23:25

The difference between our Taoisheach and the uk prime minister in how he addresses his people is staggering. Staggering. I have total and complete trust and faith in Leo vradkar. I know he has a plan. He is acting first and foremost as a medic. We could not have anyone better.
What the uk have is just appalling.
Ye need to lockdown entirely. Now.

nowaitaminute · 28/03/2020 23:28

Another thing I have noticed when the uk is being addressed by Boris is that there Is NO interpreter for the deaf, no sign language interpreter present EVER!! Awful!!

Iwannabeadored20 · 28/03/2020 23:28

Yes, Leo has really come into his own. Spoke as a medic to people and I think that really did gain the public's trust.

Superlooper · 28/03/2020 23:31

@HeIenaDove There are a number of initiatives being put in place for those who are cocooning and don't have family or neighbours to help (most would around here, great community) , including postal workers checking on the vulnerable/passing messages etc, GAA club members volunteering to deliver groceries/prescriptions/phone calls to check they are ok.

Remingtonsteeleswife · 28/03/2020 23:33

My sister inlaw is in the uk.
She rang me balling having watched Leo on st Patricks night online.
She could not believe his humanity his kindness and his total and utter faith that as a nation we can save many many lives.
I have never been so proud to be Irish.
I wish i could get my relatives home and out of the uk.

OhMargo · 28/03/2020 23:33

The Irish Team of Varadkar, (PM) Harris(Health Minister) and Holohan (Chief medical officer), is very impressive have to say.

They appear to be introducing the so called LOCKDOWN in increments so as not to spook people all at once.

As an Irish born person I know this will be policed on a community basis. No need for jackboots or drone surveillance.

I am not impressed much by the UK sorry now.

Remingtonsteeleswife · 28/03/2020 23:35

Hes not PM. He is An Taoisheach.

nowaitaminute · 28/03/2020 23:35

@HeIenaDove another difference is that here in Ireland our shops are pretty much FULLY stocked!! Apart from flour every so often and yeast in a few stores I have had no problem doing my shopping. Also there are many delivery slots are available too!!

StormyClouds · 28/03/2020 23:39

No- at some point there comes a stage where we have to balance the interests of the vulnerable against those of the majority.

For me, the current lockdown is as far as we should go- the vulnerable should be protected, but I don’t believe it is fair to ask everyone else to give up all their liberties and pleasures for a long period, which will destroy the economy, to extend those of people who will in all likelihood die in the next year anyway of other causes.

We will also reach a stage where the lockdown will cost more lives than it saves. We need to get to a stage where the vulnerable are shielded and everyone else is able to live as normal while taking precautions.

There are 20,000 deaths from flu each year and almost no attention at all is paid to this.

KaptenKrusty · 28/03/2020 23:39

I’m glad they didn’t shut the nurseries and pubs etc without ensuring that we would all be taken care of money wise here in the U.K.

They rushed into it ireland without a thought for the workers and some people I know were immediately out of work as a result? Did they sort that out / have they offered some sort of financial support yet? I hope so!!

My whole family is in Ireland and they are still allowed out once a day for exercise though so seems their “lockdown” is the same at the one in the U.K.?? What’s different?

mullyluo · 28/03/2020 23:40

I think the situation at the moment with restrictions are quite similar already between the Uk and Ireland. The difference is where I moved to at least in Ireland the lockdown was taken very seriously from the start. The day it was announced schools were closed nearly all business voluntarily stopped trading. Hotels/resturants/pubs litterally shut up shop over night, anything to do with children softplay/playgrounds immediately so it feels like we've been doing this lockdown a lot longer that the UK. Everything we are hearing about the Uk and London in particular makes it seems like up until the latest restrictons things were a lot more slack.

OhMargo · 28/03/2020 23:41

Hes not PM. He is An Taoisheach

Taoiseach you mean right? LOL

OhMargo · 28/03/2020 23:42

TEA SHOCK also.

asco · 28/03/2020 23:44

Your also not allowed to use public transport in Ireland unless your one of the essential workers actually going to work or providing an essential service - for eg grocery/prescription shopping.
Apart from families there are to be no gatherings outdoors.
All parks and car parks are closed
All places of work, unless providing an essential service, are closed.
All vulnerable and over70's to stay home - the communities are looking after them.
Except for essential shopping/delivering to elderly/vulnerable you stay within 2km of your home.
Apart from the odd asshole the majority of people are complying as we get how serious this is and we do not want to end up like Italy and Spain with their horrendous volume of positive numbers never mind their horrifically sad death count.

nowaitaminute · 28/03/2020 23:45

@KaptenKrusty anyone left without a job can claim the Covid 19 payment of 350 a week and or other social security payments. The Irish government has also said that parents do not need to pay for childcare that had closed down as the government will in effect pay it for them (meaning childcare workers will get full pay and the childcare centre itself will get help with bills and utilities) there's other payments available depending on your situation.

Remingtonsteeleswife · 28/03/2020 23:45

Lol. How rude.
Ye do know ye are fucked right.
We are way way way ahead of ye. But as usual the arrogant english think they know better.
Ye are so wrong its breathtaking.
We in ireland are 100% correct and way ahead of the curve.
We acted exactly as we should have.
I feel sorry for the uk. Ye are fucked.

HeIenaDove · 28/03/2020 23:45

As a tenant there is no way i would be leaving the engineer in the flat and going out. Not with the dodgy fuckers that have been here in the past. Ludicrous. Its funny how its all lockdown lockdown lockdown..............ooh until it encroaches on or inconvieniences something else and then its just go out when he comes.

OhMargo · 28/03/2020 23:46

Well Johnson has gone in to his bunker and couldn't be arsed with this anymore. Hope he gets better, but I do wonder if he was ill in the first place. He is such a liar.

Anyway I wish him no ill. But honestly this has been such a debacle in UK.

Remingtonsteeleswife · 28/03/2020 23:47

Please. He does in his hole have it.

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