A local shop is refusing entry to single parents

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I feel completely enraged by this. With delivery and collection slots now going to the vulnerable (as they should) it’s becoming more difficult to buy essential shopping as it is.
To remove access to essential goods based on the person having a dependant they can’t leave at home is upsetting imo.
Surely this is discrimination?

If you are self isolating you should avoid going out for food, but you can if you need to. Surely she wouldn't let your kids starve? Wait, so now it's better for people self isolating (possibly with symptoms as that's the main reason for self isolation) to be out and about and shopping rather than have children anywhere in public?

They're not actually disease ridden vermin you know, even if some posters see them and refer to them as such.

@PrincessConsueIaBananaHammock some people are over the top. And SS would not care.

The contempt on here over the last couple of weeks for people with dogs, people who want to keep exercising and children is staggering.

I also love the suggestion of stick them in school for a few hours while you do your shopping 😂. For a start, they are more likely to come into physical contact with a teacher or other children in the school, than they are at the shops with a parent. Secondly I don't think schools would even accept children for that reason at the moment.

A lot of people are missing the point that this will discriminate against single parents or those who spouse is unable to help due to work, such as emergency services, military or increasingly as is happening to 2 people I know the spouse is in hospital with CV. This will disproportionately affect women and those with children with disabilities which is double bubbie on discrimination under the Equality Act 2010. Also this makes these people more vulnerable to people who will use this opportunity to exploit people who are not able to get out.

of course you can leave your child in the car in a garage forecourt when you pay for petrol, or buy food.
Thats one of the 7 deadly sins on MN. Where have you been for the last few years?

@PrincessConsueIaBananaHammock I said no such thing. But some here are talking about kids starving which is over the top nonsense.

But shops do have protect staff and if kids are regularly running round and bumping into staff, then they have to protect staff.
In a small shop a kid can go in a buggy so can't run around, so I don't see the issue personally in that case.

I do drive so if I was a single parent I would go to a garage forecourt and shop in the shop there and leave my kids in the car. It wouldn't be the shop I wanted as before this I shopped at ALDI, and it would be limited choice, but we would manage.

Oooh. I got my first ever "typical MN reaction"😱
Big day. Big day.

@JuanSheetIsPlenty, er, yes, but then you end up with no chicken. No good if they're out of stock of a few things and you've planned meals based on your list. I like to see the alternatives and choose one based on what I am making.

@Wewearpinkonwednesdays I think there are a lot of people who do not understand how serious this all is and just want life to carry on as normal. All the - I have to take my dog out for 4 walks a day, I have to do 8 mile walks in the countryside I drive to, etc. Lots of clueless people who don't just get it yet.

260 people died today in the UK in 24 hours from covoid 19. There will be many more. And many more left with long term lung damage or other complications. Without these measures it was predicted by the government that half a million people would die. I can tell you all the kids having to do without their preferred food would be in a much worse state if their parent died. This is to protect all of us. That is what people are not getting.

If you are self isolating you should avoid going out for food, but you can if you need to. Surely she wouldn't let your kids starve?*
What part of self isolating escapes you?
A poster on hete has a cough from a heakth condition she had months ago. She has been told she should still not venture over the door until she never coughs again! Same with hay fever sufferers!
Funny how its mass murder to go out with a tickly sinus cough but if its to stop a single mum going out with kids then its stuff self isolating even if you are ill or vulnerable, just dont let those dirty kids out under any circumstances.

So sure, we can carry on letting kids run about supermarkets infecting supermarket staff who may themselves have a vulnerable child or partner. One of my friends who is very vulnerable has a partner who works in a supermarket. I am sure their kids would feel aggrieved if she died.
We can carry on taking our dogs out for 4 long walks a day and increase the chance of infecting others and increasing deaths.
We can drive to the countryside to go a long walk and find many others there including whole families out for a day out, and pass infection between us.
Or we could accept that we have to find a way to make these rules work s that we can save lives. Your choice.

Stay the fuck home!
Unless that means a parent could possibly have to take their kids out in public! Then anything goes. Except kids...

Or we could accept that we have to find a way to make these rules work s that we can save lives.

Aw the hero complex at work again. Present on all the reporting, outraged,fuming, pitchforking threads! We're saving lives! We're better at staying home than you.

@MintyMabel I know a lot of shops are doing the vulnerable slots based on the gov system which determines who is 'very vulnerable'. My son is not on that list but he is still extremely high risk, he is immune but not for one of the reasons on the list so can't get help through that. Despite the NHS sending a letter advising he is high risk and should stay indoors.

On another note, click and collect is an option for big supermarkets but if you're not near them and don't drive (I usually get a lift for my weekly shop), you can't really use that either.

@Willow2017 There is a difference between the rules MNers have in their heads and official government advice. Official government advice says to avoid going out to shop if you possibly can. Because the government recognises that starving to death is not a reasonable alternative.

@givemeacall because plenty of parents don't stop their kids running around. I know its not fair when you are considerate. But staff do not have time to go round flinging out parents and their kids who do this. So they just make a blanket rule.

Yet you want them to do even more shopping for people

Actually I don’t. I’d rather they let people in to do the shopping themselves but if they insist on keeping these people out they should expect to have to do something to ensure those people can still get their essentials.

I missed your solution to this specific problem. It must be well hidden in that turd you dropped on my suggestion.

260 people died today in the UK in 24 hours from covoid 19

As much as I want people to realise how serious it is, this statement is incorrect.
260 deaths were recorded today. Some are from as far as 15th of March, but took (I don't know why) this long to record. However, there is really more people dying now.

er, yes, but then you end up with no chicken. No good if they're out of stock of a few things and you've planned meals based on your list. I like to see the alternatives and choose one based on what I am making.

I agree- but if they won’t let you in the shop?

@MummytoCSJH if he has had that letter he is on the list

The contempt is strong in this one.

JuanSheetIsPlenty Your kids are your problem

Just remember folks, we're all in this together!

So sure, we can carry on letting kids run about supermarkets infecting supermarket staff who may themselves have a vulnerable child or partner.

Oh stop for goodness sake! Nobody is suggesting that. Are you suggesting only single parents kids run around shops? If there were rules about kids having to stay beside you or in trolleys/buggies then there would be no risk. The shops are restricting the number of people in at one time now. They wouldnt be any more risk than anyone else.

We can carry on taking our dogs out for 4 long walks a day and increase the chance of infecting others and increasing deaths.
We can drive to the countryside to go a long walk and find many others there including whole families out for a day out, and pass infection between us.
Nothing to do with the op. Nor children for that matter. Entirely down to adults.