The people who have fiddled the numbers to avoid paying tax or paying child maintenance. What will they do when they try to claim assistance due to CV?

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That’s it really.
If you’ve successfully hidden your actual income from HMRC to dodge paying tax or child maintenance, what are you planning to do?
If you’re the other parent in this scenario, how are you feeling at the moment? Is this karma? Or will it wind up being worse for you and your dc in the long run?
I’m not sure what to think.

I’ve name changed as I don’t want to link this thread to any previous threads regarding my own situation.
Been here a decade. Cutted up pear. Your minge! . Penis beaker yada yada.

Unfortunately my ex-prick will get away free as a bird. Court ordered he pay less than £20 a week for child maintenance. He never paid a penny.

Now I expect he will be fiddling the government somehow. I really hope Karma has a long memory and bites him in the ass one day.

I hope I'm around to see it.

I’ve had this thought as well, and hope karma bites back all the people who have been fiddling their taxes or Child support payments.

I would call it well deserved karma... unfortunately won't affect my ex as he isn't down as employed or self employed and has just worked cash in hand for last 10 years and claims our if work benefits

Do you all refuse to pay cash in hand to anyone? Genuine question.

Yes I do gypsy. If anyone asks, they automatically don't get the job regardless of how much cheaper they are.

Tough shit!!

And @gypsywater I do refuse, for various reasons but certainly I won't advocate tax evasion.

Karma. 12 years coming in my case.

As we're only days away from the end of the tax year there's plenty of lee way for people to declare whatever they like in terms of income for the last 11 months (as in suddenly declare everything coming in and not declare any expenses). That'll bump up their average monthly earning over three years but they'll pay for it tax wise at a later date. The bill that's gone through parliament is a bit ambiguous - earnings (income or profit?), three years (three years from tomorrow or three declared tax years?). There may be some devil in the detail.

I thought this haha.

Hahaha l hasn’t thought of this

As a self employed childminder with average net of £6k a year (earn around £12k gross) I can just cope if I qualify for £450 a month. It will be big budget cutting but we can cope with that and TC. I'm single so it's my main income

Karma to all those who accept cash in hand.

That's really interesting. I have to say I dont ever question it for cheaper stuff like nails and eyebrows and stuff. Maybe I should!

@gypsywater no of course not. Paying cash isn't illegal nor is accepting cash. I don't support tax evasion but I do understand tax.

I thought this too. The amount of people that hide their actual earnings to avoid Tax

I popped this up the other day

I've also seen a petition to pay all self employed something like 2,914, where the salaries are paid the lower of 80% or 2,500

Not sure why the self employed need more than the salaries of the employed?

Potential help for the self employed. This was on www.parliament.uk and is an amendment which states:

‘The purpose of this amendment is to make the Government ‘top up’ self-employed workers’ earnings to the lower of 80% of their net monthly earnings averaged over three years, or £2,917 a month.’

A glimmer of hope for many. Fingers crossed it’s passed and implemented ASAP.

publications.parliament.uk/pa/bills/cbill/58-01/0122/amend/coronavirus_daily_cwh_0320rev.14-18.html?fbclid=IwAR0CesVJw5Z4Y6BYbcQ6u-gABumYoFhnWTmrVQTFIEhxHpozFiyiIEjHJ_E

Karma

I read somewhere that for self employed people the proposed bill was for 80% of net earnings averaged from the past 3 years and then split into monthly payments. I think if that goes ahead then a lot of people will regret what they've put on their returns.

As for PAYE.... yes, cash in hand workers may have some regrets now.

Wonder how it will work for construction workers, self employed often but given a lot of that is declared monthly through CIS aswell as declared through SA. Anyone know?

Have they released something for self employed people?

Thank goodness, I will get almost £2k a month if that's true

@Snorkelface that's a good point! If I worked for HMRC, I would be investigating the people thats earnings increased significantly in the current tax year in five years time. If the only peak was now, I think we can assume evasion.

Hopefully they get caught!

Interesting thoughts re company directors etc.
Realise it won’t make up for years of fiddling the books but it should sting a bit.

Child maintenance payments are based on previous years income not the current financial year so if the government take the same stance for this then fiddling your books for this last month won't make any difference now.

@Bonkerz - are you sure? You're paying half of 12k in tax? That's bonkers... you should barely pay any..

This is what Sunak was hinting at. If you spend your life avoiding paying tax then the government will not be able to help you match your income. St best they could arrange a grant or loan