Is my imagination or all the twats out now?

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Just that.. Seems like the "Karens", judgy people are out. Maybe it's just the slack time.

Oh I hate it. It just makes everyone else feel all guilty and suspicious for not being a good enough Coronavirus isolator.
All those bloody facebook posts about "I work with children, if you need a timetable of activities here's an example" aye thanks Jeanette (I'm from Scotland there's not that many Karens) I have actually looked after my own weans in the summer holidays before I think I'll manage. I saw someone on Twitter had done a pisstake of those timetables, where each "subject" was a different Disney+ series and like 4 periods of watching Frozen II and one of drinking gin in the kitchen while you pretend not to hear them jumping on the sofa sort of thing. I find that much better. It's funny, and it helps reduce the stress of feeling like you have to be teaching the kids Mandarin and going on nature walks and baking your own bread and all this stuff. We just need to mostly stay in the house, that's it. And not kill each other.

still a valid question. yes, you can pop to the shop to grab an Easter Egg or some shampoo. No, you shouldn't.

Well give that as an answer then? At least people are asking. They’re not just going ahead and doing the daft stuff. Panic and stress effects people’s ability to make rational choices. Perhaps we could try and respect the fact that people are looking for advice and give them an answer without being rude and condescending, even if that answer is blindingly obvious to us.

I think that Mumsnet is bedeviled with posters who do not understand their own privilege or that people's lives are different to their own.

Not everyone has access to a car
Not everyone has a freezer
Not everyone can afford a fortnight's worth of food close to when their pay or benefits arrive.

So have to shop more frequently.

when most of the country has received a txt message stating "STAY HOME", how much more clear do you want it to be?

It's a shame people are insisting with doing whatever they feel like it until it's specifically banned or they get a fine (the current £30 is a joke and will bother no one).

I might have missed it, but it's not banned or anything to go to your holiday home is it? All the royals are doing it. Should you do it?...
Do we need the army to close the roads and check traffic?

when most of the country has received a txt message stating "STAY HOME", how much more clear do you want it to be?

But the advice isn't clear and/or has been horrendously badly communicated by Johnson.

It isn't as simple as no one must leave the house ever.

It's certainly caused a rise in the number of people on Mumsnet thinking they are secret police officers when in fact they work in a shop.

It's certainly caused a rise in the number of people on Mumsnet thinking they are secret police officers when in fact they work in a shop.

Yes, a subsection of the population are getting a total hard on over a period of authoritarianism. If this was East Germany, they'd be the ones lining up to join the Stasi and inform on their friends and family for perceived petty infractions.

Is often wondered how the stasi where so effective. Now I can see that 50% of the uk would have fitted in quite well.

There's elements of the Hitler Youth appearing - only they aren't young!

Sick and tired of MNetters trying to dicate to us. Sad, sad people. Get a bloody life.

"The vitriol directed at people for asking questions on some threads is quite frightening to be honest"

The vitriol probably comes from the most terrified people

When enough people are scared enough, they will leap on anything they think may save them
So, these strict measures have the most phenomenal support of any govt policy ever - it's not just MN:

YouGov poll

93% support / strongly support the government's new measures to tackle CV
4% Oppose / strongly oppose
3% Dont't Know

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/health/articles-reports/2020/03/24/public-overwhelmingly-backs-governments-new-measur

sick and tired of the selfish and entitled attitude of some morons who bring more and more restrictions to the rest of us, make things worst and ultimately cause for an unknown amount of people to die.

Some cannot get it in their head that's this has nothing to do with being inconvenienced by CF neighbour's loud music.

People are getting scared... well, quite, that would be the most sensible reaction. We are so behind other countries that we can see exactly what is happening. Are people actually enjoying the shut down and thinking it's a big jolly? You must be pretty confident you and your loved ones (if any) will suffer no medical emergency whatsoever for the next few months.

I'm not confident of that at all. But we are allowed to have a sense of humour in all this. We are allowed to enjoy the small pleasures that a quieter more simple life affords us (in my case it alleviates the panic at facing utter poverty). If everyone kept their eyes on their own paper and did what they know is best we would all be saner, healthier and happier.

The same people who were laughing at the idea Covid-19 would ever get here are now overreacting on FB to anyone admitting they want to step outside.

Case in point. Young man who is a self-employed personal trainer normally at the local gym, has asked on FB if anyone has a garage he could use for filming fitness videos. He wants to produce online content and personalised fitness routines, in the style of Joe Wicks, for regular clients who are willing to continue their direct debits. Apparently he doesn't have space in his tiny flat.

People are shouting about it not being "essential". You'd think he'd coughed on someone's granny. Even if you think him driving over to someone's garage and walking into it with his smartphone and a tripod poses an unacceptable level of risk, have a bit of consideration and sympathy for a man worrying about how he will pay his rent next month and buy food!

The same people who were laughing at the idea Covid-19 would ever get here are now overreacting on FB to anyone admitting they want to step outside

I think there's some truth in this.

I’m starting to think that if the government wants us to stop going for walks / runs / bikes rides then they need to say so. The current situation of half the population going for their daily walk, and the other half being so incensed by this that they risk bursting a blood vessel*, is not working out so well.

*special mention for the hypocrites who are going for a walk, and being incensed by other people doing the same, which can be seen all over my local Nextdoor pages.

They need to tell people to stay within a certain distance of their own home, and make sure that the guidance re exceptions is crystal clear.

I have my own business. The can't work because everyone's events have been cancelled.

My local area is inundated with mouth frothers, such a weird herd mentality: spying on strangers, posting pics and videos of them online.
These same creepy spies are out and about too but their trip is more valid than the trips of strangers or of people they don't like.
Spiteful people,they got the referendum result they wanted, got their loveable posh buffoon into power and now think they will be entitled to make citizens arrests and command people back into their homes.

It's this. The wouldn't be surprised if the virus was engineered by exactly this type. We made a big, big mistake thinking the Nazis lost the war.

But what difference does it make how near your home you walk? Often it makes none. After about 5 streets I can walk miles into the country. I don't sit on any benches or touch anything. If I stayed within the streets where I live there's loads more people. It's about proportion and sense.

As I said somewhere else, it's the spirit of the rules that should be abided by. These rules are not in place because the world will end if someone has more than their share of 'outside'.

The objective is to minimise potential for viral transmission while balancing the impact that complete lockdown would have on physical and mental health.

I think there's always been twats and there's many different types now.

The ones who want to one up (look how good i am at X)
The ones who think rules don't apply to them (friend who was moaning the salons weren't open and trying to get staff to resist I'm talking to you)
The defensive ones (look X is promoting self isolating but i can't, X must be being passive aggressive to me...actually X sister is a nurse who sees the twats refusing to self isolate and hurting themselves, tells X and upsets her thinking her sister is in more stress)
The ones who still think this is just media hype and its a made up conspiracy

Plus the non twats who are scared and automatically feel X is a twat because of reasons that may be true (ie judgement) OR reasons their own anxiety or unwarranted guilt ascribed

What's this bloody awful craze using 'Karen'. I've got a really good friend called Karen whose husband has just died and this pathetic craze just makes me sick. Stop it. It's pathetic and makes your whole thread look pathetic too.

No offense.. Just that name has current connotations that reflect what I mean

Well it is offensive, and twatty. So look to yourself before coming over all judgmental about others.

I’m starting to think that if the government wants us to stop going for walks / runs / bikes rides then they need to say so.

in an ideal world, they wouldn't need to say so! If people were not such entitled and selfish CF, it wouldn't be necessary!

I don't know about you, but I have a reasonably big house with a decent garden with plenty of space to occupy kids and dog - backing on empty country space no less! We don't like being stuck home, but we are simply inconvenienced. How many people are stuck in tiny flats, no outdoor space and not enough space for the kids in there?
Who do you think will suffer the most if the government is forced to impose the same kind of lockdown as other countries have? Who do you think is being penalised by parks and playgrounds being currently shut? Who do you think will have the shittest time if not allowed to walk the dog more than 1 mile or less? Not me, I just pop in a field and the woodland around.

Every fucker who went on the beach last weekend, parked on already crowded car park in the country because they thought they were being clever... they are responsible for everything closing down, even forestry England are sending messages to say they are closed.

Can't people get that? it's not a holiday. Why do people want such a lockdown that the situation is as unpleasant as possible.