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Please don't put a rainbow in your window!

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RuffleCrow · 23/03/2020 12:28

For the past few years the rainbow has sadly becomea symbol of silencing, sexual stereotyping and oppression for a lot of women and those in the LGB community. If you're thinking of putting one up, please think about how that may make women feel - many of whom have already experienced death threats and lost their friends and jobs thanks to those who wield the rainbow flag as a weapon.

I just saw two on my walk just now and it made me feel like shit. Not the intended effect I'm sure. Please consider something else: the sun coming out from a cloud, or a simple landscape. Thanks.

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Hoggleludo · 23/03/2020 15:46

We can't go east today darling. There's a rainbow in the sky!!

bigknickersbigknockers · 23/03/2020 15:47

FFs OP are you mentally well? Get a fuckin grip, this is a global emergency. If children have to stay at home and this is just one little activity they can do you should be able to smile and let go of your own personal feelings about rainbows.

Ondalay · 23/03/2020 15:47

Gender critical on MN means transphobic. Or transwomen being in ladies loos specifically. I'm not sure what it's supposed to mean though.

Ginger1982 · 23/03/2020 15:48

"We know that the rainbow flag has been used as cover for pretty much everything from regulation-capture leading to anti-scientific educational materials as standard in schools, and police-led intimidation of those excercising freedom of speech - as well as the destruction of safeguarding. This is well evidenced here on MN and in the broadsheets daily up until CV took over."

Do we? 🤔

Notredamn · 23/03/2020 15:48

DD and her classmates have been posting photos of their rainbow pictures to each other online as part of their long distance art lesson today.
Lovely to see, if it makes you feel like shit then sort your life out.

WotchaTalkinBoutWillis · 23/03/2020 15:48

@Cwenthryth of course it should be more than that - and it was positive for me before this started. but there has been literally no gap between everything you mention and this sm led craze starting

You have your fingers so firmly stuck in your ears that you are replying to Cwenryth but at the same time as literally ignoring what Cwenyrth said -upsetting someone who has lost someone, are you OK with that?
Rainbows don't just mean LGBT.

Nobody can be 100% certain whether it's coincidence or not
Seriously, listen to yourself.
Only grace is that this is out on the main board for the absolute nonsense it is and not where everyone is agreeing they're terrible, terrible things and the mere sight scares them and panicking people into paranoia even more.

megletthesecond · 23/03/2020 15:49

On a shitty day this thread has cheered me up.

tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz · 23/03/2020 15:49

IamFlesh thanks!

Wotcha nope, that's not what GC is.

Notredamn · 23/03/2020 15:50

Gender critical does not mean transphobic ffs.

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MotherofKitties · 23/03/2020 15:51

I've got a rainbow up in my window. I couldn't give a damn if someone objects to it being associated with the LGBTQ+ community. All kids see is a rainbow and pretty colours. Chill out.

LittleCabbage · 23/03/2020 15:51

I agree that in recent years, the rainbow has been hijacked by people (mostly men) who wish to erode women's rights and child safeguarding.

Initially, my gut reaction was to not want to ask my kids to stick rainbows in the window, but then I realised it would reduce the association with trans rights activists, and become more linked with a cheerful attitude during the Covid-19 crisis.

So I will be joining in.

WotchaTalkinBoutWillis · 23/03/2020 15:51

I actually hope it stays up and inspires every child of every mumsnetter to put up a rainbow in their windows

Day 2 of Willis's home school here tomorrow, think one of the lessons on tomorrow's timetable may be Art Grin

FuckOffCorona · 23/03/2020 15:52

This bisexual woman says what a load of self-entitled bollocks. It’s still a symbol of hope for millions, including me, and in any event and much more importantly, this isn’t about you, me, or any LGBT person - it’s about the millions of kids going through unprecedented stress and disruption, having something positive to focus on.

You can make space for them for this short, difficult period. And if you can’t, you can go for walks staring at your own navel the pavement instead.

Ondalay · 23/03/2020 15:53

Can someone explain what gender critical is then? From my understanding of it, you don't agree with transwomen. I've never seen a definition of it.

helgahelga · 23/03/2020 15:53

I have just printed off 15 pics of rainbows. A4 size. One for every one of my windows.

Thanks for reminding me to do it @RuffleCrow Grin

Cornishclio · 23/03/2020 15:53

I thought the LGBT community saw the rainbow as a positive thing not a symbol of oppression? It is a symbol of peace and serenity? How can you have a problem with that?

As it is if it triggers negative thoughts for you the vast majority of all humankind see it as a good thing. I have spent the morning making a rainbow cake with my granddaughter. It is extremely unfair of you to try and attach negative connotations to a much loved symbol. The LGBT movement have adopted the rainbow flag as a symbol of Pride. YABU.

IAmFleshIAmBone · 23/03/2020 15:54

@ondalay, myself and another poster have already done so

saraclara · 23/03/2020 15:54

The rainbow has been a symbol of hope after disaster since the bible, OP. Does Noah's Ark mean anything to you? I'm atheist btw, and absolutely not triggered by the rainbow having that meaning.

Expecting the rest of the world to stop seeing it that way, is just bizarre. And of course, means that those people of whom you disapprove, have 'won' in some way.

WotchaTalkinBoutWillis · 23/03/2020 15:55

Wotcha nope, that's not what GC is

If you say so Lang
(not sure which Lang, sorry as there's so many of you now seeing as you all changed your name in solidarity when a more shall we say prolific poster (euphemism for want of a better word) left the feminism board

RuffleCrow · 23/03/2020 15:55

And you think you're 'helping' children by being unnecessarily rude to someone's mother do you, @FuckOffCorona? Hmm

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PleaseStopCrying · 23/03/2020 15:55

Day 2 of Willis's home school here tomorrow, think one of the lessons on tomorrow's timetable may be Art Grin

Good. Lets hope others do the same. The world is literally a huge pile of shit right now. If we can help brighten it with some rainbows then this thread will not have been a total waste of time.

Ondalay · 23/03/2020 15:55

A rainbow has long been both a meteorological sign of hope (as long as human beings have existed) and for as long as I know, it's a sign of hope. For the LGBTQ+ culture, it's a symbol of the different colours that make up a whole. All different colours, but put together, it's something beautiful. For this OP, it's a sign of oppression. Honestly - some people need help.

WotchaTalkinBoutWillis · 23/03/2020 15:57

Can someone explain what gender critical is then?

It's exactly what people have said on here, but you're going to get "No, it's not!"
Come on then, those saying it's not - what is it then? As you haven't said but are quick to say "it's not that FFS."

RuffleCrow · 23/03/2020 15:59

So you think upsetting me further is a way to get through coronavirus @helgahelga, do you? I think these nasty posts are proving it's not really intended as a symbol of 'hope' as far as they're concerned. It's rapidly becoming a symbol of bullying and general unpleasantness on this thread.

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