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Was I wrong in this argument?

132 replies

Robin42 · 15/03/2020 12:34

OH and I have just had a massive argument and I am really upset and crying. He thinks I am wrong. I think he is being horrible.

I have been suffering with my mental health badly for the past few years. I feel really low about my appearance and how I look and feel quite ugly most days. My partner does compliment me and say nice things but not daily or anything like that. Yesterday I wore makeup for the first time in ages and he said a few times how pretty I looked. Perhaps I should have taken this as a compliment, but it just made me sad because it made me feel like "why don't you compliment me without makeup? I'm not good enough without makeup". I said to him is it because I've got make up on? Is that why I look nice? And he said i dunno...yeah. this really hurt my feelings because it makes me feel like well i obviously need make up to look attractive :( I said this to him and he said well why do you wear make up, because you like the way it looks, so why cant I?

All I wanted was some reassurance that I am just as pretty without makeup :(

I felt really upset and I went quiet and I needed some time to ground my emotions. He got annoyed at me for being upset so I said I was going to get ready for bed. I didnt want a confrontation. I just wanted it all to go away.

I went to bed and straight away in the morning he jumps down my throat how I am rude for going to bed and not saying goodnight and for fuck sake all I did was say you were pretty. I just sit there on the sofa with tears rolling down my face and he says that there I go again playing the victim, and that the way I treat him is unacceptable and he isnt having it and that he deserves an apology. I feel so bullied and attacked that I feel too scared to even say what my feelings and emotions are because he is so angry that I feel he would use anything against me. I feel powerless and defeated. I say sorry and he says I dont mean it. I'm really upset and I just feel he doesnt understand me at all. All I wanted was some reassurance and I felt his compliment was a little back handed. We have just moved in together and now I feel like I have made a huge mistake.

I had to go to my old house today to clean it ready for handing the keys back and take some furniture to the skip. He promised to help me but refused to come because I didnt apologise and because I wasmt talking. But I coyldnt talk to him because he was being so hostile. :(

I have messaged him asking him to come and help because I cant carry the furniture on my ow and he said I should have thought about that before being so rude and that he isnt helping. I've asked friends but noone is free at such last minute. I'm sat here crying in my empty old house and with old bookcases and stuff upstairs that I cant carry down :(

OP posts:
Ortega · 15/03/2020 13:26

I am confused. Is this the same partner as the other thread?

lazylinguist · 15/03/2020 13:26

Sorry but YABU. You already said that he compliments you regularly even though you haven't worn make-up for ages, so it's not that he only likes how you look with make-up on. Then, when you've clearly made n effort he compliments you. Presumably you put make-up on in order to look pretty. I'm guessing if he hadn't commented, you'd be offended that your efforts had gone unappreciated.

I sympathise very much over your mental health issues OP, but in this case you are very much being unreasonable.

littleduckeggblue · 15/03/2020 13:31

Yabu

Bubblebu · 15/03/2020 13:31

ok I am way out of my depth with this thread reading it thro, maybe it is because I am old. my OH hardly ever complimented me on my physical appearance - looking back I can only remember one maybe 2 times. and I thought it was nice but most certainly did not hang onto it as a thing. he always looks smart but again it was not a thing.

to the original poster I understand it is easy to feel insecure about appearance especially if young and in this day and age, and especially if your relationship is very much based on the fact that he liked your looks first and foremost at the start but most long term relationships are not sustained on how beautiful the woman is. Some are but most are not. First you need to work out whether the importance of looks comes from him, or you think it comes from him but it does not or it actually comes basically from you. If the first do you want to continue. If the second or third you need to decide what changes you should make if you want to continue in the relationship

chipsandgin · 15/03/2020 13:33

It’s not his job to validate you and putting him in that position (as pps have said he’s damned if does and damned if he doesn’t) must be exhausting/draining and frustrating for him.

Neediness is not an attractive quality, your physical appearance isn’t actually as important as other aspects of your personality anyway - kindness is far more important (& it sounds like that’s what he was showing you when he complimented you)...I can understand him wanting some space when you’ve behaved in a way that threw that back in his face and twisted his words and intentions!

If your view of yourself if entirety constructed by external validation and predominantly based on your appearance & ‘feeling pretty’ it is your own issue and your responsibility to sort out, maybe with some counselling or self-help books? Not by depending on someone else to try and play the game of feeding this neediness & guess the complicated rules of the game only you understand - only to be pushed away and made to feel guilty when they get them wrong!

Perhaps leave what you are doing, apologise for being unreasonable & completely losing perspective & suggest doing something fun together later, then ask nicely if he can reconsider & give you a hand today?

theneighbourswindchime · 15/03/2020 13:37

Were you with a woman, now a with a man?

No judgment here (love who you love etc) but I just want to get my head round who is who :) xx

startrek90 · 15/03/2020 13:40

I'm sorry just read the first page but I think YABU. It sounds like your mental health issues are controlling you and it sounds like your partner has also hit his limit.

Your MH problems are your to deal with, and you really need to start owning them and dealing with them. It's not on your partner and it's simply not fair to put him in a box like that.

I don't think you too should move in. You need to get help with your anxiety and MH problems and you need to learn to communicate better with each other. The silent treatment is not on at all.

I feel every sympathy with you as having MH problems is horrific to live with as you really can't think logically. I also have sympathy with your partner as living with someone who has these problems is so very hard and sometimes you just run out of sympathy.

HedgehogDramas · 15/03/2020 13:44

Not that it makes any difference but I'm confused as well as to whether this is the same partner from your last thread as the sexes have changed.

notangelinajolie · 15/03/2020 13:44

He was being nice so you should be the one who apologises. You sound needy and very touchy - perhaps that is because of your MH but I think the ball is in your court for this one.

Crazycrazylady · 15/03/2020 13:49

Honestly op . You do sound like a total drama queen . "Sitting there with tears streaming down my face". All because he complimented you. The poor man. I'd let you move your own furniture too to be honest!!

YesThatsATurdOnTheRug · 15/03/2020 13:51

I can totally see his side here to be honest. Yes you probably do look prettier with make up on, why else would you do it? If he has to walk on egg shells around you all the time and can't even make a normal comment which anyone else would see is a complement then no wonder he ends up frustrated.

Manchestermanchester · 15/03/2020 13:52

Sounds like your mental health is having an affect on how you view the world. Women look more attractive in make up. People are so used to see make up faces that they don’t realise what normal looks like.

Hope you can work through this.

Manchestermanchester · 15/03/2020 13:52

Omg I’ve just read the recent replies. You are all b-witches.

Zombiemum1946 · 15/03/2020 13:54

You both need to apologise but you especially. Things were said in the heat of the moment. You over thought a simple compliment, turned it into a minefield for him of epic proportions. Get help for your health problems from experts before it torpedoes your relationship. He's not psychic, and your extremely over sensitive. If you continue like this, it's going to ruin your relationships in general.

Catapillarsruletheworld · 15/03/2020 13:57

I’m your first paragraph I thought you were being over sensitive and the poor guy couldn’t have said anything right.

To to carry it on until today and refuse to help you because of it is pretty cruel.

Catapillarsruletheworld · 15/03/2020 13:58

*in, sorry. Don’t know why it ended up as I’m!

slashlover · 15/03/2020 13:59

@Manchestermanchester

Omg I’ve just read the recent replies. You are all b-witches.

Is that a typo or are you afraid to type bitches?

Ortega · 15/03/2020 14:03

Omg I’ve just read the recent replies. You are all b-witches.

B-witches? As in these ladies?

Was I wrong in this argument?
MitziK · 15/03/2020 14:03

I'm not surprised he's reacted like that.

He says you look pretty, he's in the wrong. He doesn't say you look pretty, he's in the wrong. He says your makeup is pretty, he's in the wrong. He doesn't notice your makeup or say it's pretty, he's in the wrong.

You're accusing him of bullying you because he said something nice to you.

Unless you haven't mentioned a BPD/EUPD diagnosis, in which case this sort of gaslighting fuckery is absolutely normal, you probably need to make a GP appointment, as nobody can be expected to put up with that sort of twisting of words on a daily basis.

TheFormidableMrsC · 15/03/2020 14:12

Christ you sound like hard work OP. He can't do right for doing wrong. You've gaslighted him too. You need to get some help for this as your relationship is unsustainable under your terms. I wish you well.

annamie · 15/03/2020 14:14

It sounds like you give silent treatment, OP, when you say you ‘needed time to ground your emotions’? A few hours is fine but if you go quiet on him for days then that is usually emotional abuse. Hard to say as you haven’t said how long you go quiet for.

Mlou32 · 15/03/2020 14:17

I feel really sorry for your OH, you sound like very hard work. It sounds like he can't do right for doing wrong. You are in the wrong here and you need to apologise. Also work on how you act in future. Do you enjoy the drama in a way and him subsequently begging you for forgiveness?

AnneLovesGilbert · 15/03/2020 14:19

He can’t win. You want daily compliments and when he gives you one he’s in the wrong, you ignore him, you wail and try to emotionally blackmail him, you expect him to hop to when you need him. Highly unreasonable, immature, unacceptable. You need to take responsibility for your own mental health and access more professional help before you chase him away or end up being properly abusive.

PinkiOcelot · 15/03/2020 14:23

Well he couldn’t win that one could he?! Feel sorry for him tbh. Damned if he does and damned if he doesn’t.

Jux · 15/03/2020 14:27

OP, I'm really sorry. I don't think you're ready to move in together atm. I do think it was a little unreasonable to become so miserable because he really DID pay you a compliment. It's the cliche - "you look nice", "what do you mean, don't I usually look nice? What's so special about me today that you say I look nice today, don't I usually look nice? etc".

It's not fair; he can't win. If he doesn't compliment you, you get upset, if he does compliment you, you get upset.