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AIBU - Still buying stuff for daughter at University

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Virgo28 · 10/03/2020 13:21

I'll try to give all details to save questions so please bear with me. DD and her BF both 1st year students at uni one on south coast and one up north so the only time they see each other is when they are home but still text etc each other. Me and DP have been to see daughter twice, once in November and again end of February and both times I have taken up a bag of goodies for her, stuff like biscuits, sweets, basically stuff that I have seen when shopping that I thought she might like as a treat or maybe an essential that she has mentioned she needs. She works hard, is getting good grades and also has a part time job between her studies as her student maintenance loan only just covers her rent. The girls had been talking and DD mentioned the weekend we visited and told BF the stuff we had done (tourist stuff) and the bits I had taken up to her. BF must of told her mum and the next day BF's mum is knocking on my door basically demanding I stop enabling and spoiling my DD because apparently I should be allowing my DD to be an adult and not interfer as it's not helping her learn "life lessons" I also should not be visiting her as this doesn't help her either. Who is being unreasonable here? It honestly didn't cross my mind, it was just a few bits and a day out exploring where she is because we'd never been there before DD started there. It's about 4 hours each way so we drove up Saturday morning, spent the afternoon and early evening together, stayed at hotel that night, took her to breakfast the following morning and then left lunchtime to come home.

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Imohsotired · 10/03/2020 20:55

I used to love when my mum did this at college. I lived abroad after college and she sent me care packages and brought me a suitcase full of treats and primark clothes when she visited!

I treat her as much as I can now and bring her groceries etc because why the heck not!

Supersimkin2 · 10/03/2020 20:59

99 per cent of parents do this. I was so ashamed of my parents when they didn't.

SecretNutellaFix · 10/03/2020 21:03

I'm 40. When I go to my mum (nearly every week), she will have always picked up a treat for me when she was getting her pension. she isn't strong enough to do a proper shop so I do that when I visit, but the fact that she's made a huge effort to have something there for me means so much. And it means a lot to her. We've spoken about it and she told me she feels like it's her way of doing something for us; even though we're adults an earning and with our own lives she's never not going to buy her children treats.
You carry on- we're all still kids at heart no matter our age.

Chocolateandamaretto · 10/03/2020 21:08

my mum is 60 and her mum is 80. My nanny still brings her daughter biscuits when she visits because she likes treating her child! Hardly a sign of being overbearing, just you being a kind and affectionate mum. Ignore!

HelloBambinos · 10/03/2020 21:26

Yeh your DD BF mum is clearly the unreasonable one here.. Maybe stress? Guilt? A mixture or just plain unreasonable.. If my sons go to uni ill be doing the same.. I'm 29 and me and my sister who is older than me still get an advent calandar every December off our mum... She's our mum she loves doing it it's a tradition. Ignore her and carry on.

Graphista · 11/03/2020 00:00

Wow! That’s some nerve she’s got!

Anyone familiar with my posts on this sort of subject or who can be bothered to AS me will know I am also a strong advocate of independence in young adults and I despair of parents who send their dc off to uni completely incapable of cooking a meal or doing a laundry.

BUT there’s a balance and it’s a gradual thing.

I’m old enough to have been of the generation that were among the last to fall under the old grant system, parents not being able to afford to supplement my income enough at that time is why I was unable to go to uni at 18.

Uk govts have pretty much always expected that parents will support under 21’s starting at uni that’s partly why that was and is the age for defining a “mature” student and mature students can apply for more help from the govt which is what I did.

My parents weren’t able to help massively but did visit and take me for meals and get me groceries and odd treats.

I remember one visit they arrived a bit earlier than expected (traffic was usually horrendous but this time was quite clear) and they came upon me doing a hatchet job trying to cut my pizza I’d cooked for my lunch with a paring knife. They were like “what ARE you doing have you no pizza wheel or even kitchen scissors?” And I was like “no couldn’t afford, a small sharp knife more versatile” so they picked me up some kitchen accessories that visit.

The next time I was a mature student I was a single parent in my 30’s and my mum still sent care packages and topped up my phone if I was stuck and she’d send treats for dd too.

I’m 47 now and she’ll still pick up a particular sweet or drink I like (I like old fashioned soda flavours which can be hard to find) but as times gone on I started doing it for her and dad too. They are in their 70’s now and have particular “retro” sweets, cakes and biscuits they like but aren’t easily available now and can also be quite pricey so if I spot them (housebound at mo but when I’m not) or they pop up on my usual online retailers as being on special offer I’ll order some to be delivered to them.

I did this for dad just last Christmas found an online vintage sweet store and ordered him a “gift pack” he loved it!

Dd moved out last year, she’s working but she works shifts and sometimes gets stuck for getting groceries or occasionally money gets a bit tight as she’s not on a massive wage and I help her out.

Such behaviours are just part of being a family - hell I do similar for my friends too!

As for “is op real?” I know AT LEAST 2 people who would behave exactly as pps dds friends mum did and feel zero shame for it! Nosey, interfering, bullies the pair of them! So that doesn’t actually surprise me at all. They walk among us unfortunately!

Actually thinking about it both sets of grandparents were the same with their dc dad was army and when we’d been up visiting we left with whole suitcases full of scottish food and drink! 😂😂 And of course sandwiches made with pan loaf and a couple flasks of home made soup. Before we had cars we’d travel by train (in the good old days of national rail! When you could easily get ONE train from Scotland to the south of england) and you could definitely play “spot the real Scot” on the train home as they’d be the ones with obviously Scots food like this 😂

Now they’ve passed the siblings have all taken over “being in charge of” various products either they all like or certain individuals like. Hard to explain without it being VERY outing.

Eg auntie A always gets X biscuits for all that sides siblings as she lives near a bakery that still makes them and they’re a reasonable price

Uncle B always gets Y sweets that uncle C and auntie D like as he works near a shop that still sells them.

Hope that makes sense!

And there’s no “you owe me £x for them biscuits” etc either as it all really evens out over time

It’s lovely they all think of each other. My dads side are all quite volatile and frequently “fall out” and go through spells of not talking to each other - but still deliver to each other’s houses various treats! It’s bonkers! But also sort of sweet.

@biddypop your family sounds very like my parents families. Both grans would do a “baking” at least once a week usually a Sunday because the oven was already heated from the roast so it was economical to do so. Our (my siblings eyes) would be wide at the sheer amount...then the uncles would descend and could quite easily scoff the lot AND take a load home if they were allowed and we’d realise each time that actually the grans knew exactly how much to bake. Neither had scales or measuring jugs either all done by sight/experience which still amazes me. There was also ALWAYS a pot of soup on the go on the stove (would be there for 3/4 days and never in the fridge yet it never made anyone ill) and always bacon and eggs in for butties. Another wide eyed moment was when I noticed one grans egg delivery from the milkman a half dozen “trays” so 6 x 12 eggs! But big family (my mums one of 6 and 3 were still at home at this point plus great grandparents were still alive so a household of 7 even then and that didn’t include us 5 visiting) eyes went even wider when she said she’d need another delivery that week (because of us being there) but now looking back that makes sense to me. Everyone had at least 1 egg in breakfast so that’s a dozen eggs while we were visiting right there!

“The petty side of me will be taking TWO bags of goodies next month including an Easter Egg” haha! As I say I’m 47 and my mum still gets me an advent calendar and an Easter egg

@ssd what a lovely memory of your mum that’s made me tear up! Sorry for your loss. I’m at an age friends are starting to lose their parents and as these are people I grew up with as De facto “aunties” I’m finding that hard enough I’m dreading losing my mum 😢

Thanks to all who’ve lost their mums.

I also remember one student was sent away with a suitcase full of clothes for arctic weather as her mother worried she’d be cold “up north” A it was the midlands not the north at all B it was a late summer and the poor girl was melting! She ended up buying some cheap t-shirts and leggings so she didn’t become a puddle 😂. When the mother visited she was very “oh they have WHSmiths up here” I think she was very sheltered and very south England centric in her thinking.

“If I visit I try to do a big supermarket shop of basics, as supermarket a distance from accommodation” Yep this is often an issue. When I was at uni the 2nd time I was fortunate enough to be able to run a cheap car plus I knew the area and where not only the supermarkets but the discount stores were and I used to do “a run” about once a fortnight where I’d give a few of the younger students a lift to stock up on groceries, stationery etc wasn’t always the same students either

“Is your family more middle class than your daughters's friends family?” I think the reverse is more likely. Ime it’s working class families who know what it’s like trying to manage a tight budget who understand how hard it can be for students who haven’t come from silver spoon backgrounds.

“my mum still sends me sachets of risotto from Aldi.” I’m sure the list of what various families consider “treats” would be quite interesting - and outing!

Re “slipping dc a few quid” both my parents would do this...and tell me not to tell the other parent! I was quids in then!

DuLang my dad being army used to send blue towel (great stuff far better and lasted longer than bought kitchen roll!) also paper, pens and even thermal underwear! ignoring the criminality here

His being army also meant he’d bring back loads of bizarre/unfamiliar items if he’d been deployed or stationed either overseas or at bases where eg there was a USA px because American troops there too, like the time he sent me a case of twinkies and a case of reeses cups he got cheap as they were close to sell by date - that made me very popular that month! The case of olives and stuffed vines from Greece not quite so much 😂 I like olives but they’re not exactly a student favourite!

“My mother used to send me the local paper every week” omg that’s reminded me! When my parents weren’t living in Scotland my gran used to send them the Sunday Post every week! Again pre internet days. First time I was at uni they’d save the “Francis gay” and “oor wullie” And “broons” pages for me - cause of much hilarity as non Scots students tried to read the cartoons 😂

“he'd purloined from cafes and service stations!” SO relieved I’m not the only one with a thieving father! 😂

@thefairycaravan yes! Very common for young recruits parents to do similar too, especially things like local papers or regional food and drink. LOTS of Yorkshire and scottish tea bags mailed to squaddies regularly.

Wow this has actually turned into a lovely nostalgic/warm hearted thread

TheWernethWife · 11/03/2020 13:24

My granddaughter graduated four years ago and moved 50 miles away. We regularly visit and take stuff I've picked up in Sainsbury's. Things like pasta/curry sauces.

MashedPotatoBrainz · 11/03/2020 13:30

BF's mum has got it in the neck from BF for being a shit mum and not bothering visiting or supporting BF.

Keep doing what you're doing. My DD is 26, lives with her partner and has a professional job. I still take her shopping when we visit and make sure her cupboards are full. And my MIL does the same when she visits me.

Dixiechickonhols · 11/03/2020 13:36

I’m 45 my mum has visited me today with 2 treatsize bags of maltesers (one for me one for Dd) she never comes empty handed. My grandma did same when she visited us. It’s nice. Carry on as you are. Ignore bf mum.

BiscuitTin3 · 11/03/2020 13:41

I’m 38. Mum popped to see me today with a couple of bags of shopping, necessities plus treats for me and the kids. BF’s mum sounds CRAZY!!!

Brown76 · 11/03/2020 14:28

She should allow YOU to be Ab adult and not interfere!

BigSandyBalls2015 · 11/03/2020 17:45

I thought every parent did this, your friend is barking and I feel so sorry for her DD.

My DD is in her first year and we've visited about 6 times in all - I would never force myself on her, if she wanted us to stay away we would. We take the lead from her. I love to take her out for dinner and buy a few bits and meet her new friends, it's lovely.

I also occasionally transfer some money at the weekend for her to treat herself to a takeaway rather than the usual student diet of pasta and omelettes.

I also love the Wetherspoons app - she'll give me her table number and I'll order a jug of cocktails, genius.

user12345796 · 11/03/2020 17:48

I miss mine and every so often I send an Ocado or Sainsburys order to their doors.
What business is it of anyone else's.

WineGumsandDaisies · 11/03/2020 17:58

Blimey!!! Who put DDs mum in charge of all parenting?? She sounds nuts tbh

My DD is in first year at uni. Maintenance loan doesn’t cover the rent so we pay difference and more and she works to make ends meet. My PIL give me a goodie bag for her and we take stuff to her as well, whenever we see her. It’s what you do and if someone told me to stop I’ll tell them to wind their neck back in.

She sounds horrid. You sound lovely and your DD will be so grateful. Keep up the great work xx

DreamTheMoors · 11/03/2020 18:07

BF’s MOTHER NEEDS TO MIND HER OWN FUCKING BUSINESS. WHAT A KNOB.
I’d warn my DD that she’s got this to look forward to if she gets more serious with the BF.
That would be a GIGANTIC NO from me.

Bugbabe1970 · 11/03/2020 18:10

Stupid cow
Of course you should do those things for your daughter
Mine is in uni and I do the exact same thing

Kittyclaws · 11/03/2020 18:12

I'm 30, with my own home and DD and my mum still brings me food, prosecco and bits & bobs when she visits (once a month) along with stuff for DD. I plan to do the same for my DD when she moves out (although at 5, I have a while yet!)

Bfs dm is being rotten.

DreamTheMoors · 11/03/2020 18:12

Thanks for the clarification, @Virgo28. That’ll teach me for popping off before I’ve RTFT.
I still say tell her to MIND HER OWN BUSINESS.

Tessabelle74 · 11/03/2020 18:17

I'm 45, I moved out of home at 19 and my Mum STILL brings a bag of goodies when she visits me! That's being a Mum isn't it?

expat101 · 11/03/2020 18:24

Our Girl finished Uni just over a year ago and I still send her cookie parcels and the like when there is a good special on. In our region, there were also mystery boxes of trial makeup and skincare kits I subscribed to as well a few times.

Ours was a bit further away than yours, however, I would stay overnight and we had our ''favourite'' cafe we would go to for lunch if I arrived in time, and breakfast the following day.

I enjoyed those trips and now she is finished, really miss those times of popping there.

Keep doing what you are doing! You are making wonderful memories and building a solid base with your Daughter that has moved on from being a parent of a school child.

Give the BF's Mother the finger if she approaches you again. Sad cow.

Harls1969 · 11/03/2020 18:24

What you do or don't do for your daughter is absolutely nothing to do with BF's mum. You are perfectly within your rights to tell her to fuck right off and mind her own business! How rude! Jealous of the great relationship you have with your daughter?

expat101 · 11/03/2020 18:35

BF Mother could also do what I did if its funds related and that is freeze excess meals. I found it really hard to reduce how much I was cooking for a long while, so froze the excess in microwavable containers.

When either Daughter flew home or I went to her, we would have shopping freezer bags full of frozen home cooking or empty containers coming back!.

And I wasn't the only Mother doing this and carting food about on regional airlines/car trips too. :)

cherish123 · 11/03/2020 18:37

Ignore her boyfriend's mum. She sounds crazy. It's none of her business.

pangolina · 11/03/2020 18:37

My mum visited me once in my 3 years at uni and it's always upset me. I still feel sad 20 years later! My friends' parents always visited and brought stuff and I always envied them.

user14366425683113 · 11/03/2020 18:40

I lost my parents too young to ever get to experience any of this, but it's still been such a lovely thread to read and see so many people sharing such caring and positive experiences. Even if I do feel a bit weepy now.

Wish my mum had lived long enough for us to experience this kind of adult mother-daughter relationship.