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Woman in gym class telling me to move (and racist?)

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ReeRi20 · 06/03/2020 21:45

Two Saturdays ago I tried a Zumba class that I don’t usually go to at my gym. I went again last Saturday. There is a woman who I have found a bit strange and it’s now making me anxious about going tomorrow.

I went in and picked a spot to stand in, as you do... Shirley came over (not sure what her real name is) and started saying to another woman in the class (let’s call her Nisha) indicating towards me “Nisha this looks like your daughter!” and repeated it. Nisha just laughed. I’ve seen Nisha in other classes and don’t think she looks anything like me. We are both brown, possible the only two non-whites in the class.

When the instructor came in she approached me as I was new to her class. Shirley then said to the instructor “It’s Nisha’s daughter!” I said no I’m not her daughter. Shirley repeated “She is shes Nisha’s daughter”. Instructor then said something about having met Nisha’s other daughter. I said no I’m really not... Instructor didn’t know what to say and at some point went to sort music.

I then noticed Shirley was still hovering v close to me and she went on to say how this is where she usually stands so she can see. At one point touching me as if you actually push / place me further away. I said yes I like to be near the front too so I can see how especially as I haven’t been in this class before. She went on (can’t remember what she said) and then said “so shall we just swap places?” I said “can’t I just stay here?” She said yes of course you can... She kept touching me a lot. It was weird. She was sweaty and ive never met her.

One of the other women, who I know from other classes, commented on her being known to be a bit difficult sometimes and said I was right not to move.

Last weekend I went again, stood in a similar place. She was standing right next to me and then told me “you’ll have to move over there as I always stand here”. She wouldn’t move so I ended up moving across and back a bit during the class probably getting in others’ way.

No I’m nervous about going to the class tomorrow. I really enjoyed it and have booked on but how do I deal with this woman if she just stands next to me and doesn’t move. I consider myself somewhat assertive but I also suffer anxiety and have been feeling anxious about this all day.

I get that people gravitate towards certain spaces. I do too. But if someone got there first I wouldn’t dream of trying to move them. If I just stand somewhere else I’d probably be in someone’s preferred spot so why not hers?

I also think the strange comparison of me to the other brown person in the class was weird and possible racist but not sure if I’m being insensitive.

OP posts:
waterlego · 06/03/2020 23:17

She sounds racist. And twatty.

I teach fitness classes and I encourage newbies to come to the front (they generally don’t want to as they’re self-conscious and want to hide at the back!) It makes perfect sense for newcomers to be positioned where they can see the instructor well. Luckily, none of my regulars are particularly territorial, but if they were, I’d be diplomatically dissuading them from such unfriendly behaviour!

Thinkingabout1t · 06/03/2020 23:18

I think you should speak to the instructor about this, OP. You’re not being oversensitive - I would be really stressed. Shirley is either very thick or racist, i don’t know which. Or autistic as someone suggested - but that shouldn’t be your problem. If the instructor knows Shirley has special needs she should have a plan for solving the problems Shirley causes. Don’t be pushed out of your Zumba class.

Actually the simplest solution would be to arrive early and take a good front spot that’s nowhere near Shirley. The other women can’t all be autistic, so they will just have to make room. No one owns a particular space in a class.

Good luck, and enjoy your Zumba!

KatherineJaneway · 06/03/2020 23:18

I'd pick a new spot away from 'her' spot. For whatever reason she sees that as her spot and is clearly used to getting her own way and standing there by her touchy and gobby behaviour.

catmg · 06/03/2020 23:19

Please do go to the class tomorrow - don't let anyone, let alone Shirley, stop you from doing something you want to do!

She probably didn't realise the racist undertone of her comment, but ignorance is no excuse. That said she doesn't sound very intelligent either. I would be honest but non confrontational in any interaction with her : 'you can't reserve a spot, I got here first, please drop it youre making me uncomfortable'.

Throughthegate · 06/03/2020 23:27

If you want to enjoy the class, just don't stand anywhere near her.
She was being racist imo, though she may have not realised this herself. I mixed up two black actors today and I realise that it was because - not of prejudice I hope, but a bias toward how I see people's faces when they are from a different race to me. Which is another form of "they all look the same" sadly. I believe this is quite common. What most of us don't do then is make cringeworthy comments to the person about it!

Lausch95 · 06/03/2020 23:34

Please don't give up your class for the sake of this weird woman. Stand your ground. Be polite but firm. You don't have to move just because you are new and she demands you move. Don't allow her to make you feel uncomfortable. Speak to the instructor.

WaterOffADucksCrack · 07/03/2020 00:35

I'm not sure how she was being racist. Because she didn't assume all the white people in the room were related, just the brown people.

WaterOffADucksCrack · 07/03/2020 00:56

I forgot to add, if someone touched by them like you describe, I'd say (loud enough for others to hear) "please stop touching me it makes me uncomfortable" if they continue say "stop touching me" even louder and if they contunued I'd shout across to the instructor for some help so they came over. I'd explain they won't stop touching me despite being asked and leave it to the instructor to deal with.

I'd report the racist comments too as the instructor could maybe suggest an alternative class for her.

lookingforadvice8372829 · 07/03/2020 01:26

Some people are just twats.

It's pretty insulting to people who have genuine mental health illnesses to say they anybody who behaves like a twat probably has a mental illness.

You can just be a twat without being mentally ill.

She sounds like just a twat to me going off your posts OP.

I'd try to get there early and stand at the front away from where she seems to like standing and hope she stays away from you.

If she comes near and makes a nuisance of herself again be firm and tell her not to touch etc.

S0upertrooper · 07/03/2020 01:44

Next time sneeze very loudly 'This bloody cold, I've had it since my sister got back from her cruise in Asia' she'll soon scarper! (NB I'm in Asia OP)

Alternatively, tell the instructor or gym manager to sort her out and keep up the exercise!

Splitsunrise · 07/03/2020 01:54

Definitely stand your ground!

StoppinBy · 07/03/2020 02:03

I would just jokingly say 'guess you better get here earlier then, first it best dressed', laugh a little and then turn my back on her. Purposely slap her in the face a few times or step on her feet/leg as you Zumba while apologising sweetly haha.

Silly bitch, don't let her scare you, that's what she wants. If it continues then report her.

Nekoness · 07/03/2020 02:14

Swing your arms in a windmill as you see her approaching as if you’re stretching and move in a little circle, so that your back is turned to her (as you keep swinging your arms) and you can’t see her.

Whatifitallgoesright · 07/03/2020 02:42

Just go to the other side of the room. You're not trapped there. If she follows it will make things clearer.

Mummyoflittledragon · 07/03/2020 02:55

I thought the unwritten rule was newbies go to the back of the class and copies the ones in front. It sounds as if to her she thinks you aren’t playing by the rules and she doesn’t know how to deal with it - especially as you took her spot. If she is neurodiverse, perhaps she doesn’t realise how racist and gauche her comments are. I can’t imagine Nisha will have been laughing with her even if it appeared that way.

Is it really worth the agro to stand your ground against this woman?

Autumn2019 · 07/03/2020 03:00

Sorry..i haven't read the full thread so may have missed something. Next time if she says that you are standing in her spot can't you just say something like "sorry i am not going to move now. But if you want this spot next time , you'll just have to get here before me now won't you!". If she makes comments about you being Nisha's daughter or something stupid with racist connotations like that again, maybe you should look a bit puzzled and say something like " i am sorry ,i didn't get what you mean.( I can't see why you would think i am Nisha's daughter). Are you referring to the colour of my skin?" and let her explain exactly what she means..

No matter what, don't stop attending the class because of her. You can always move somewhere else and blank her completely.

lilyblue5 · 07/03/2020 03:21

She sounds vile OP. Good luck at the class today, I wouldn’t even engage with her just crack on and enjoy it.

Sometimeswinning · 07/03/2020 06:59

It just sounds like she wants the spot and shes making you move. She is also succeeding. I do think you need to stand up for yourself or just accept shes the sort of person who gets what she wants.

Why is she a chav? That's a strange comment.

TidyDancer · 07/03/2020 07:18

There's someone like this in my weekend class. Even the instructor rolls her eyes at her. It's a class with equipment so you do pick your spot and stay there for the whole hour and she likes one particular place. If someone else gets there first she will ask them to move and if that doesn't work she will try to move the equipment they are using and put hers in its place or move the other persons towel and water bottle.

I've told her off before and so have others. She is more subtle about it now but she's a horrible character who just pisses everyone off.

OP your one sounds like she's being racist because it's an easy weapon for her to pull out to make you uncomfortable enough to leave. Clearly not acceptable but I wouldn't let her win. Report her to the instructor and the gym and carry on enjoying your class.

damnthatanxiety · 07/03/2020 07:27

HunterHearstHelmsley surely you don't mean to tell everyone here that you don't understand what racism looks like? It is not just people calling people names. She was not asking once because she genuinely thought the OP looked like Nisha. She was making a point of repeatedly pushing her racist agenda by 'being funny' or whatever the hell she thought she was cleverly doing. She was obviously making underhand and nasty comments relating to 'you brown people all look the same'. She Clearly racist. That you don't seem to understand this suggests you do the same. Hmm

damnthatanxiety · 07/03/2020 07:28

TidyDancer are you serious??? How does she move your stuff? I would tell her to stop. Loudly and in a horrified tone

damnthatanxiety · 07/03/2020 07:30

Mummyoflittledragon the only people who think there are rules about where you stand are people like this crazy lady. First come gets first choice of place. That's how classes work.

damnthatanxiety · 07/03/2020 07:32

lookingforadvice8372829 I think people suggest MH because the behaviour described is so unbelievably abnormally rude that people find it hard to believe that it can be out of choice. But you are correct. SOme people are just twats

HunzintheHood · 07/03/2020 07:40

The thing here is - unlike @TidyDancer’s example (am guessing Pump classes), it’s Zumba. You could move a little bit and there be room.

The woman does sound unhinged, but honestly is the spot worth it? You could just go to the other side, drop back a line etc and stay well away from her. If you suffer with anxiety why purposely make this situation worse by choosing that spot.

I’m not saying it’s right, but at the end of the day it’s just a class just ignore and move.

Toria70 · 07/03/2020 07:48

I'd go and stand the other side of the room from her.

Life's too short.