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Woman in gym class telling me to move (and racist?)

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ReeRi20 · 06/03/2020 21:45

Two Saturdays ago I tried a Zumba class that I don’t usually go to at my gym. I went again last Saturday. There is a woman who I have found a bit strange and it’s now making me anxious about going tomorrow.

I went in and picked a spot to stand in, as you do... Shirley came over (not sure what her real name is) and started saying to another woman in the class (let’s call her Nisha) indicating towards me “Nisha this looks like your daughter!” and repeated it. Nisha just laughed. I’ve seen Nisha in other classes and don’t think she looks anything like me. We are both brown, possible the only two non-whites in the class.

When the instructor came in she approached me as I was new to her class. Shirley then said to the instructor “It’s Nisha’s daughter!” I said no I’m not her daughter. Shirley repeated “She is shes Nisha’s daughter”. Instructor then said something about having met Nisha’s other daughter. I said no I’m really not... Instructor didn’t know what to say and at some point went to sort music.

I then noticed Shirley was still hovering v close to me and she went on to say how this is where she usually stands so she can see. At one point touching me as if you actually push / place me further away. I said yes I like to be near the front too so I can see how especially as I haven’t been in this class before. She went on (can’t remember what she said) and then said “so shall we just swap places?” I said “can’t I just stay here?” She said yes of course you can... She kept touching me a lot. It was weird. She was sweaty and ive never met her.

One of the other women, who I know from other classes, commented on her being known to be a bit difficult sometimes and said I was right not to move.

Last weekend I went again, stood in a similar place. She was standing right next to me and then told me “you’ll have to move over there as I always stand here”. She wouldn’t move so I ended up moving across and back a bit during the class probably getting in others’ way.

No I’m nervous about going to the class tomorrow. I really enjoyed it and have booked on but how do I deal with this woman if she just stands next to me and doesn’t move. I consider myself somewhat assertive but I also suffer anxiety and have been feeling anxious about this all day.

I get that people gravitate towards certain spaces. I do too. But if someone got there first I wouldn’t dream of trying to move them. If I just stand somewhere else I’d probably be in someone’s preferred spot so why not hers?

I also think the strange comparison of me to the other brown person in the class was weird and possible racist but not sure if I’m being insensitive.

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dementedpixie · 06/03/2020 22:06

I would just stand somewhere else tbh. It's not worth the aggro

ElbasAbsentPenis · 06/03/2020 22:06

Sounds like mental health problems and/or learning difficulties to me. (Doesn’t make the behaviour any less unpleasant to deal with, but may mean the approach you’d use with someone who was just pushy and a bit of an arse might not work). What an unsettling experience, OP. Wish I had good advice. Gyms are weird enough without this sort of thing.

WalkingOutOfFlabbiness · 06/03/2020 22:07

Yes racist and rude. Christ I would hope the others are aware - what an arse. Stand your ground and if she tries to get in your space be polite and firm. If she goes on about you being related to Nisha tell her you find that offensive/ racist not funny. She sounds like a bully either deliberately or due to poor emotional intelligence - she is in the wrong either way. Hope it goes ok - it’s not you it’s her.

Bluntness100 · 06/03/2020 22:07

You might look like her daughter, if you’ve not met her you don’t know. God my neighbour goes on about how I look like her niece. I don’t assume it’s because we are both white. I assume she thinks I look like her niece.

On everything else though I agree, she was being a bit odd, but she might have been trying to be friendly with the chatting, but also being turf protective over her space.

I’d honestly not get stressed about it op

HunterHearstHelmsley · 06/03/2020 22:08

Like you say, its hard to judge without being there. I'm looking at it as a (white) person who has been told I look like someone's daughter. I'm usually like... Mwahahaha she is so old! Grin
You were there and I wasn't, and I've never been racially stereotyped.

ReeRi20 · 06/03/2020 22:09

I could just stand somewhere else but would still choose to be near the front so I can see and I’m not sure she won’t still be in my face somehow

She didn’t seem like she had learning difficulties or anything. She just seemed like she was being territorial but trying not to seem like she was being a twat about it!

I also think if I stand somewhere else she’ll still come and talk to me and touch me with her sweaty hands!

I wish she wasn’t in the class.

Apparently she told off Nisha once too

Hmm

Maybe I’m making a drama out of nothing and should see what happens tomorrow

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overnightangel · 06/03/2020 22:10

“ Or a simple "Fuck Off" with a big smile may work just as well!”

Yes!

“ Sneeze and cough ostentatiously. Then lick her face. ”

😀

In all seriousness she’s a racist twat and sounds like an utter cunt so maybe flail a stray zumba arm into her chops , hopefully she’ll get the hint

Summercat · 06/03/2020 22:11

@ElbasAbsentPenis

Sounds like mental health problems and/or learning difficulties to me.

Oh FFS, why do people always come out with this nonsense?! Hmm

@ReeRi20 This woman is being remarkably rude, and yes, borderline racist.

Seriously, tell her to FUCK OFF, and stop bugging you or you will knock her out. Just reading your posts is giving me the rage!

WalkingOutOfFlabbiness · 06/03/2020 22:12

Christ it’s not hard to judge is it - even if you were struck by a slight similarity that the OP Is much better placed to see if it were there it would be beyond crass to ask whether the two Asian women in the room were related.

ReeRi20 · 06/03/2020 22:12

I don’t assume it’s because we are both white.

Bluntness I know you from other threads (Love Island etc) and have name change but I think it’s easy to say don’t worry about it when you are not in that situation.

I haven’t experienced much racism in my life and I’m thankful for that. I don’t know if you look like that woman’s niece. Have you met her?

I expect that if you had, and you thought you looked nothing alike, but you were the only two white or black or asian people in the room, then it might bother you.

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ReeRi20 · 06/03/2020 22:13

I like the “just FUCK OFF!” 😂

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WalkingOutOfFlabbiness · 06/03/2020 22:14

Nisha too? Racist bully then? Fuck giving her an inch. The liberation that comes from saying no!

Bluntness100 · 06/03/2020 22:14

Yes I get what you’re saying, and no I’ve never met the niece. As per the other poster, clearly I’m looking at this from a white perspective, which is, it’s something I get quite a lot, oh you look like x, y or z. hence why I’m not sure she was being racist. But if you feel she was. Then she was. Only your opinion here matters.

ReeRi20 · 06/03/2020 22:14

I probably am being oversensitive aren’t I? I’m tired. I am anxious about the class.

I think she was a twat.

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GulliBelle · 06/03/2020 22:15

I don't think your gym lady means any harm. I'd let her have her space , as it seems to worry her.

I have a colleague who sounds very similar to her, socially awkward, no real filter, She makes jokey remarks that are neither funny or appropriate, and will repeat them again and again, but misses the point of other people's jokes. She kind, loyal and generous, just a bit Neuro diverse.

WalkingOutOfFlabbiness · 06/03/2020 22:16

Can you take a friend? Or just pretend you are a bitch😎

ReeRi20 · 06/03/2020 22:16

It just seemed weird to me Bluntness

I think if she starts tomorrow I’ll tell her to get out of my face or I’ll be complaining about her to the instructor / gym management / our local MP

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Bluntness100 · 06/03/2020 22:16

Just stand at the other side close to the front and stay put her way. Don’t let it stress you out.

hollieberrie · 06/03/2020 22:17

It's definitely racist! I just went on a diversity and inclusion workshop at work and this was one of the examples they used! (Saying that Bame colleagues look similar / could be related/ getting one colleague confused with another colleague etc)

Batfinklestein · 06/03/2020 22:18

She sounds like a massive twat.
Could you try to get there early and stand towards the front on the other side? It really should be first come first served. And maybe have a word with the instructor first if possible.
It’s so childish and pathetic when grown adults behave this way over “their” place in a class.

Luckystar20 · 06/03/2020 22:18

Is she abit of a chav op loud and full on

WalkingOutOfFlabbiness · 06/03/2020 22:18

God no harm with her racist comments and self important expectations. Most people who act like twats simply are twats

Bluewater1 · 06/03/2020 22:18

She sounds like someone who may have social communication needs

lemontreebird · 06/03/2020 22:19

Can you get there early and have a word with the instructor? Get her to remind everyone that they need to give each other space. And to say so during class too, if this woman starts encroaching on you.

ReeRi20 · 06/03/2020 22:20

Could you try to get there early and stand towards the front on the other side?

Yes maybe.

Is she abit of a chav op loud and full on

😂

Possibly a little...

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