People using lifts

[Aquarius1619]

I’m actually a bit annoyed at myself for being petty enough to post this.
But this really got under my skin today!! I have an 11 month old who isn’t keen on the pram, will sit in there for 15 minutes or so but as soon as I stop moving she has a meltdown.
So we were waiting for the lift as we were parked on floor 5 in the local shopping mall today and I was stood behind a queue of people waiting to use the lift. People with no shopping, no kids, just didn’t want to use the stairs. And it took 20 minutes for me to get in the lift because each time it would come to my floor it was full of people with no kids, no wheelchairs, no walking sticks so then we’d wait for the next one then one of the people in front of me with nothing to carry would get in it. I know every disability isn’t visible either but FFS I’m talking a load of people here. By the time some of them had eventually got in the lift it would’ve been quicker for them to have walked up and down the whole place! Meanwhile DD is having a meltdown because we’d been stood around for ages. Is it unreasonable to expect people to just use the stairs and free up the lifts for people who actually need them? If I have no pram with me I always use the stairs

YABU but I enjoyed your sense of entitlement.

It was depressing. It was still mainly family, friends etc who had a link with the schools. Very few parents or those expecting wanted to get involved That's because parents using pushchairs have the luxury of knowing there is an end date to it. So they won't put the work in but are happy to reap the benefits of others' hard work. I say that as a parent and pushchair user but my work involves disabilities etc and I've been involved with campaigns in my area.

How do you wear a baby? I thought one carried the baby in a sling not wore it like a garment. I'm cringing for you writing that. Plenty of people use the term and whilst I don't like it myself, I'm not a twat to people who choose to say it. Some people just sit there rubbing their hands with glee waiting to stick the boot in over something so pathetic.

I'm pretty fit and pretty healthy. I exercise - probably not as much as I should but do a bit. I often take a lift because I want to. No other reason.

It really is depressing. These same self involved entitled people are so quick to moan when things go wrong. But actually doing something proactive about it, and A million and one bs reasons why not.

What makes me laugh about these threads is that it’s always parents having a moan about waiting for lifts, buses etc. But I don’t ever recall reading a thread started by a wheelchair user about all the selfish asses using those spaces.

This group and other disabled people who have priority should be the ones shouting and complaining the loudest. I would love to see more from the disabled community, starting threads about spending 2 hours in the pouring rain waiting for a bus. Or waiting 2 hours to use the lift etc. But from my experience they won’t, because despite the downfalls and with continuing campaigning they will always have it better than previous generations.

Mumsnet = the epitome of #bekind

What makes me laugh about these threads is that it’s always parents having a moan about waiting for lifts, buses etc. But I don’t ever recall reading a thread started by a wheelchair user about all the selfish asses using those spaces.

This is Mumsnet. I’m sure on Wheelchairnet you’d find more of them

I know this is Mumsnet, there are members on here who are wheelchairs users themselves or caring for someone who uses them.
It might be called Mumsnet but it’s not exclusively for mums.

I’m talking about people who DON’T need to use them for health reasons/extra luggage/peaks/mobility issues it can sometimes get annoying
I don't need a lift BUT I have every right as a customer of the shopping center to use one

And yes before I had a child I would just heaven forbid walk up the stairs rather than wait 20 minutes to get in a lift?!!!
So what? Good for you, I didn't

Of course someone with a buggy takes priority over normally mobile people
Actually no, you wait your turn like everyone else.

@BubblyBarbara wheelchairnet really???? You don't think wheelchair users are parents???? What an odd comment to make. Wheelchair users should have their own forum should they and not be venting on here????

@ffswhatnext well said

Of course someone with a buggy takes priority over normally mobile people

Why though?

It’s blindingly obvious I’m talking about people being lazy who clog the lifts when they don’t need

Lifts are for everyone. Not just people with health conditions, disabilities. If someone wants to use it they can, it's not up to someone else to decide they are being lazy.

Of course someone with a buggy takes priority over normally mobile people

So what your saying is
Two people at the lift.
“Normal” mobile person has been waiting 20 minutes.
“Normal” mobile person with pushchair comes along and is now entitled to go first

Yea fuck off 🤣
And a toddler having a tantrum I’m doing everyone in the lift a huge favour and saving their hearing. Bad enough in a small room but a lift is something else.

You want everyone you perceive to be able bodied to climb five floors so that you don’t have to wait for a lift?! Wow!

YABU - if those people could have easily trotted up the stairs I doubt they'd have queued for a significant amount of time.

We do usually use the stairs, unless carrying something too heavy or if DH is having an episode of heart arrhythmia (which you wouldn't be able to tell from looking at him). In some car parks the stairs are grim though, which may be a reason people avoid them.

@BubblyBarbara

” This is Mumsnet. I’m sure on Wheelchairnet you’d find more of them.”

did you really just say this?!

P.S. mums can also be wheelchair users!

What makes me laugh about these threads is that it’s always parents having a moan about waiting for lifts, buses etc. But I don’t ever recall reading a thread started by a wheelchair user about all the selfish asses using those spaces.

There are sometimes threads by wheelchair users (whether their own or a dependents) complaining about buggy users being selfish arses on buses. Afaik none the other way because it's clear to anyone with an ounce of sense and decency who should be given priority.

Unfortunately Errol, there have been lots the other way round.

How do they usually go? I'd quite like to see someone dare to do one with voting buttons.

I cannot recall one with a vote button.
They can also be amusing, some posters with a millions but but but reasons. Obviously not amusing for those who need the whatever.

Have a search.

BubblyBarbara
You sound horrible. Wheelchairnet ffs.

Ds is 10, he is also disabled although he looks “normal” he struggles with stairs and can’t balance to use escalators. We use the lift when he is walking and no I wouldn’t be letting someone with a pram get on before us! I would and do let people with wheelchairs get in first.

Ds also uses a wheelchair when out and about a lot so obviously we use the lift then. It is amazing how many parents pushing prams towards the lift start running when they realise we are also heading to the lift in order to get there before us!

As others have said, you have no clue why someone else needs the lift. I was told off for using the lift by a man (grrr) when I was pregnant and suffering horrible morning sickness.

why was HE using the Lift ???

I don’t have a hidden disability but I will take a lift because I can. They are there for everyone, and I’m fully expecting to get absolutely flamed for my next comment but I wouldn’t, as a matter of course, let either a pram or wheelchair user jump the lift queue. Why should I? We all want to get to the same place using the same mode of transport, why is their need greater than mine?