Are you still pro-Brexit?

[Fatasfooook]

Brexit will have soon cost the UK more than all its payments to the EU over the past 47 years put together

www.businessinsider.com/brexit-will-cost-uk-more-than-total-payments-to-eu-2020-1?fbclid=IwAR3E3Xc8p0bgNF06hCJZzr61Ak-6VetNbFv5vrfsV041nPvDZeFSCnjHcdg&r=US&IR=T

Google the proposed policies of AFD FN etc and you'll find they have much in common with the Tories.

Slovakia very recently completely rejected the far right.

Which ever way you voted a recession was on the way anyway.
The more well off we’re doing ok thank you very much and were not affected by immigration,in fact it has been a bonus for them.Higher house prices,cheap labour in the form of cleaners,builders etc.
The lower down the scale you are the more immigration will have affected you which is not accepted by those not affected.
So it was either this,cut immigration or those well off pay more into the country.

Ireland’s just swung strongly to the left btw.

Portugal swung more left at the end of last year too, and Denmark did so earlier in 2019.

We have legally left the EU. Brexit is over.
We are in the phase of asking trade deals.
I can understand people talking, or even complaining about potential trade deals, but not Brexit.

What is there left to argue about? It's done. Well done Boris.
It was a great achievement of his to rescue Brexit from MPs who promised to honour the result and then ditched democracy.
Glad they all lost their seats.

I am furious about it so I will complain about it for as long as I like. The campaign to rejoin probably won't get going in earnest for a few years I would imagine but it will be round soon enough.

Boris Johnson is a national embarrassment. I wouldn't trust him to run a bath.

I think as a remainer, for my own mental health/sanity I have to make peace with the fact there indeed is nowt so queer as folk.

Voting leave makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. I have not heard one argument that explains that we will be better of economically or culturally /society wise. In fact , several leavers on another message board I go on suggest economic hardship will be a price worth paying for our ' independence'. Truly baffling. Patriots voting for more Britishness, but at the same time not minding that the country will be damaged as well.

So what can you do? we live in a world where is up is down and day and is night. Trump and Boris Johnson, two utterly ignorant scumbags are head of the USA and UK . A 16 year old girl that is trying to save the world is mercilessly trolled and threatened. Two members of the royal family who have harmed nobody have had a complete witch hunt and pack of lies from at them for wanting a more peaceful life.

Aye, nowt so queer as folk.

YES... and would still vote YES

@GoodbyeRosie, I could have written that. Madness, isn’t it?

Leavers - It’s like standing outside watching your house burn down with your family inside but still thinking that lighting that candle next to the curtain was the right thing to do

So why bother asking the question, if you simply wanted to suggest "all Leave voters are stupid"? Why not just use that as the title, and at least be honest?

Same old, same old Puzzled

Leavers - It’s like standing outside watching your house burn down with your family inside but still thinking that lighting that candle next to the curtain was the right thing to do

What on earth will you do if we actually make a really good job of it and none of the doom and gloom predictions come true? Seriously, what will you do, having worked yourself up into a frenzy of fear, anger and bitterness?

The problem with trying to reason with people who continue to insist that the sky will fall in is that even if it doesn’t and even if most things tick along just as well as before, or even better in some respects, all of that will be ignored or somehow dismissed as irrelevant or not properly representative of the truth as a whole.

But the second the wind blows in the wrong direction it will be jumped on as proof that Brexit has been a catastrophe. The minute we can only get five different brands of olive oil instead of twelve, it will be ‘OMG!! this is it!! We are all going to starve to death!!!!

And watch there be shortages of things on the shelves soon, 100% because of Coronavirus, and see how long it takes before someone blames Brexit.

The majority voted to leave. Unless you think that as an individual, your wish to remain trumps the majority leave vote?

I'm thankful that we live in a democratic society and that peoples votes actually count. Would you rather we lived in a country that didn't have democracy?

The majority didn’t vote to leave. 37% of those eligible to vote voted to leave. That means 63% either voted to stay or didn’t care either way. It’s a thousand pities that it wasn’t mandatory to vote in that referendum.

@fieldofflameandheather

I'll be furious about Brexit regardless of the outcome. I'm angry that the gamble was taken on my behalf. If someone bet my house on a horse I'd still be pissed off with them even if the horse came in and I ended up better off. Relieved obviously, but still angry.

No one can say how Brexit will go for definite. It might go ok, it might go well, it might be a disaster. I've spent my entire working life in the shadow of the last recession. Things had just started to normalise and Brexit unsettled everything and will continue to unsettle it for years (likely decades) to come. I'm fed up of being professionally and financially disadvantaged by circumstances that are the making of people who are willing to gamble not only for themselves but for others.

The majority didn’t vote to leave. 37% of those eligible to vote voted to leave. That means 63% either voted to stay or didn’t care either way.
37% of those eligible to vote voted to leave.
34% of those eligible to vote voted to remain.
Neither side can claim the votes of people who didn't vote.

Exactly the point I was making. That’s why I think it’s a great pity that voting in the bloody thing wasn’t mandatory.

I'm angry that the gamble was taken on my behalf
Were you angry that the referendum was held, or just the outcome?
I didn't want a referendum, I didn't vote for the Tories who promised and delivered it. Once it was being held, I felt obliged to vote.

That’s why I think it’s a great pity that voting in the bloody thing wasn’t mandatory.
Turnout was high by the standards of previous elections and referendums, though.

Not as high as if there hadn’t been a choice. 29% sat on their hands.

I an ultra Remainer but threads like this are pointless & divisive.

@hingeandbracket

Both. There should never have been a referendum it's far too nuanced a topic to be dealt with by way of a binary question.

I'm angry that when asked the question many people didn't recognise that they were taking a risk by voting leave. I accept people were lied to but it was always clear that Brexit had many possible outcomes and (even if you think a successful Brexit is more likely than not) there were no guarantees.

I'm angry that when asked the question many people didn't recognise that they were taking a risk by voting leave.
How do you know they didn't?

Yes