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Noise on trains

337 replies

Flower884 · 19/02/2020 15:32

Why do parents think it’s ok to let their child listen to a children’s programme loud on a train with no earphones?

I’ve experienced this a few times now on trains and planes. They seem oblivious to the noise.

Another lady has just asked the mum to turn it down as she’s trying to work. The mums response - well my child can’t hear it!

OP posts:
Flower884 · 20/02/2020 06:39

**I'm not saying my child uses her iPad on loud, but if she wants to then she can...

Just wow! It’s a losing battle. Some parents just can’t and won’t stop being selfish and expect the world to resolve around them and their precious child. Unbelievable.

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redcarbluecar · 20/02/2020 06:58

Think I can understand how a short cartoon or whatever to calm a child down might be the lesser of two evils when travelling- headphones or not. My bugbear on trains is people who don’t have their phones on silent and receive continuous beepy messages. I don’t understand the lack of consideration there.

StoneofDestiny · 20/02/2020 07:06

Interesting that the silent mode on I pads and I phones in Japan is known as 'manner mode'. Very apt. Simply good manners to respect every bodies right to peace and quite by putting devices on silent when in confined public spaces and kids could be taught that from an early age.

BuzzShitbagBobbly · 20/02/2020 07:11

How do we know that mother hadn't been up all night with children, exhuusted, travelling miles and just wanted 5 mins of peace while children watched ipad? Maybe some people should stop moaning at everyone else and ask if she wanted some help?

Because nobody else is ever wrecked from exhaustion and long distance travel and just wants their own 5 minutes of peace (which it never is, is it)?

MarthasGinYard · 20/02/2020 07:20

'I'm not saying my child uses her iPad on loud, but if she wants to then she can... '

Good God

The great entitled breeding the great entitled....

Grim

StoneofDestiny · 20/02/2020 07:20

How do we know that mother hadn't been up all night with children, exhuusted, travelling miles and just wanted 5 mins of peace while children watched ipad? Maybe some people should stop moaning at everyone else and ask if she wanted some help?

How do you know her fellow passengers hadn't been up all night with children, or parents suffering with dementia, exhausted, travelling miles? Or going to or from a stressful job, suffering great trauma or recent bereavement or family crisis.

Mums with kids don't get priority over everybody else. Silent mode is hardly a hardship!

Bubblemonkey · 20/02/2020 07:32

Rather kiddies tv than pissed up morons

Keanuismine · 20/02/2020 07:33

How the fuck did all of us who parented before iPads and phones manage I wonder.

NChangeForNoReason · 20/02/2020 07:36

Guilty!!!

However my son is 1yo and I assume fellow passengers would prefer teletubbies to a child wailing!

A 1yo can't be expected to wear headphones so either get some of ur own or move seats.

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StoneofDestiny · 20/02/2020 07:47

How the fuck did all of us who parented before iPads and phones manage I wonder

Exactly - they didn't surrender responsibility for their kids behaviour over to an electronic device!

MaxNormal · 20/02/2020 07:53

I have autism and I find electronic noise like YouTube clips and cartoons particularly difficult. Children screaming isn't brilliant but it's far less disturbing than the electronic screetch.
I'm shocked that people are justifying doing it. It's the height of selfish behaviour.

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 20/02/2020 07:56

Well I wonder how people parented before colouring books Hmm

A loud rude person is a loud rude person, it isn’t specific only to parents who resort to a screen briefly.

IanSomerhalderIsAGod · 20/02/2020 08:00

Lmfao. Your not a parent are you? 😂
Move if it upsets you

bruffin · 20/02/2020 08:02

A 1yo can't be expected to wear headphones so either get some of ur own or move seats.
Then just have the sound on , and yes a child wailing is often more bearable than the loud noises of iPads.

Arseit · 20/02/2020 08:02

@NChangeForNoReason - actually, I’d rather have a crying child than the bloody Teletubbies. And yes, you can get suitable headphones for a 1 year old.

kingsassassin · 20/02/2020 08:03

Of course a one year old can wear toddler headphones. As per another poster, if it's now a free for all, none of the parents blaring out teletubbies or peppa pig can object to an adult watching game of thrones loudly or listening to rap without headphone because it's only for a short time.

MaxNormal · 20/02/2020 08:03

IanSomerhalderIsAGod I'm curious as to how parents managed before the advent of iPads and smartphones?

ohnooutofdateham · 20/02/2020 08:03

*Guilty!!!

However my son is 1yo and I assume fellow passengers would prefer teletubbies to a child wailing!

A 1yo can't be expected to wear headphones so either get some of ur own or move seats.*

Actually horrible, tinny, electronic sounds (even if they're 'quiet') are far worse than a child crying. Human noise on the whole isn't particularly annoying and I can block out a child crying (as long as it's not my own). I cannot block out the noise of other people's devices.
That includes annoying people who play their music too loud through their head phones.

Luckily I live somewhere that the trains aren't too packed so I just change carriage.

Abraid2 · 20/02/2020 08:04

A 1yo can't be expected to wear headphones so either get some of ur own or move seats.

Parent your child properly and nobody needs to move.

10FrozenFingers · 20/02/2020 08:05

Ridiculous number of people attempting to defend the indefensible.

YANBU, OP.

emilybrontescorsett · 20/02/2020 08:07

I find lots of people in general are rude and inconsiderate.

I work in a public sector role and deal with sensitive issues.
Lots of people just wander in, answering their phones shouting loudly into them, trying to speak to me whilst I am obviously speaking to a customer on the phone. Some of them let their children run around unsupervised.
It isn't a playgroynd, it's a very sombre, official building.

I often have to give people my hard stare whilst apologising to the customer on the other end of the phone.

It's just rude.
Learn to have a sense of occasion and get some respect.

ohnooutofdateham · 20/02/2020 08:09

If you never put the sound on the tablet then your 1yo/2yo won't know that it makes sound and will watch the cartoon anyway. A 3yo you can reason with to wear headphones.
Simples.

emilybrontescorsett · 20/02/2020 08:10

On and when it is gloriously peaceful we often get, usually men, saying how quiet it is. We reply, yes that's exactly how we like it.

FrancisCrawford · 20/02/2020 08:22

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ShatnersWig · 20/02/2020 08:23

Last time I was on a train, two women each with two kids of around 4 or 5 got on. They permitted their children with slightly muddy shoes to stand on seats, let their kids basically run amok while they had a conversation.

I travel by train quite a lot and the loud tablet syndrome occurs frequently and doesn't necessarily result in a quieter child as they often join in or respond loudly. Were we really all hideous children who couldn't be quite on trains before tablets?

Conversely, I've never yet (fortunately) encountered the arrogant teenagers with loud music from their phones or headphones that don't really work. I've only had drunken idiots returning home from rugby or football twice.

I did however, about 20 years ago, have to endure Anne Widdecombe sat across the aisle from me on her brick mobile phone being ridiculously loud and rude to whomever she was talking to.