Noise on trains

[Flower884]

Why do parents think it’s ok to let their child listen to a children’s programme loud on a train with no earphones?

I’ve experienced this a few times now on trains and planes. They seem oblivious to the noise.

Another lady has just asked the mum to turn it down as she’s trying to work. The mums response - well my child can’t hear it!

Wow. The kid obviously rules the roost in that family.

Incidentally my daughter has sensory issues and copes with earphones just fine - we've instilled the expectation in her from an early age that they come as part of the package when technology is involved and it's not been a problem.

I also personally hate the train drinking thing which generally isn't the preserve of 2 year old kids - although I did giggle when a bunch got on with 4 packs of lager the other night to be told by the train guard "have you guys been made aware of these new dry trains now... good job this isn't one of them then!" (Think this guard was planning a career change to stand up comedy bless him)

Other notable train dickheads lately... one of the trains I get home is an intercity (I'm doing a local stint of it) and absolutely fucking rammed standing room only. The prat who decided to try to force a bike through a crammed vestibule (not the cycle storage ends of the train) and put it in the toilet for the trip, before making such a fuss getting it back out that some people nearly couldn't get off the train and missed their stop. The santa stag conga I've mentioned. Loads of women who do their make up and get off the train looking like different person - I'm secretly a bit impressed as I can't even write my name on the train without it looking like shit - let alone flicky swooshy eyeliner fiddly bits... I've taken to getting the little local goes everywhere and takes twice as long to get home trains to avoid the worst of the idiocy - but that had a father letting his toddler dance on the train tables the other day.

For those saying it’s hard to keep headphone on a young child. Dd has had these since she was about 1.5. There’s all different ones so you child can pick out what one they like (superhero’s, animals, unicorns etc). You can buy them for £10-£15 on Amazon. So much comfier for kids to wear than headphones.

CozyPhones Kids Headphones. Comfy Headband Earphones, Light as Air and Great for Travel, Comes in Kid Friendly Animal and Anime Designs and Cute Colors like Green, Blue and Purple - MYSTIC UNICORN www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01K8U9MCI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_xTRtEbQVH0P8D?tag=mumsnetforu03-21

Picture won’t post by there’s the link above

I am in a train right now. We are delayed about an hour and a group of blokes got on and we all have to listen to their crappy music played through a phone.

I am alone with 2 kids and there is about 8 of them so I’m not going to challenge them. Oh and one of them had just tried to put his manky shoes on the table.

Why are people so inconsiderate?!

Because @RevIMJolly, as has been perfectly demonstrated on this thread, there too many selfish, inconsiderate twats now. Me me me. It’s all about me. Fuck everyone else.

@Kuponut yes, bikes are another bugbear. If a bike hasn't been reserved, it will only be carried subject to space. Being held vertically in a doorway does not count as space, I don't care that it's only for one stop, it's not safe.

"One thing I will not tolerate is so called adults swearing around [kids]"

There are loads of things that happen in public that you might object to/not want small eyes seeing, yet this obsession with a mythical un-headphoned child watching a noisy and irritating video, having to listen to a stranger deliberately and persistently swearing?

Another one for the parent your child camp. Music / programmes etc - any noise from your phone or iPad - without headphones, is just rude and completely inconsiderate of others. Regardless of age. Parents managed to entertain their children in public (restaurants / trains etc anywhere in public) just fine before phones and iPads were invented. Yes it involves a bit more effort than just plonking them in front of a screen but that's parenting. And yes, sometimes it's really really hard work, but again, that's life - everyone else shouldn't be subjected to unreasonable behaviour just because one individual is tired or having a bad day or their toddler is having a meltdown (and of course I get that that happens and two year olds are active and noisy and curious and sometimes have tantrums and often are load - as long as the parent is engaging with them and trying to show them how to behave I honestly would rather that noise than some mindless programme with zero effort). And it also teaches children how to behave in public - they won't get it right straight away but with practice they learn - talk to your children, read them a story etc. The needs of the individual do not trump respect and consideration for everyone else, when in public. I don't care if the mother is having a bad day - we all have bad days sometimes and again 'you don't know how what they're going through' isn't an excuse to be inconsiderate of others. And it's not unkind to expect that!

YANBU OP. People have become more selfish. I get the bus every day and every day it’s another episode of Peppa Pig or whatever, no headphones. Mind you I’ve also had 2 incidents this year of asking parents to stop their children touching me (one was rubbing her muddy wellies on my trousers, another put her hands in my hair and started playing with it) - on both occasions I got abuse for my trouble. People on public transport are a special kind of yuk.

I had a long, crowded train journey north from London yesterday evening. It wasn’t the most restful, but most of the noise was caused by groups of adults singing and playing music loudly on phones. Was surrounded by kids who were very good, all on screens and all quiet. I guess you don’t expect perfect peace on crowded public transport. Some things are more helpful than others though.