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Boris Johnstone quickly settles divorce.

142 replies

Nippybutsweet · 19/02/2020 01:53

AIBU to call it now that his girlfriend is pregnant?

www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2020/feb/18/boris-johnson-agrees-divorce-settlement-with-marina-wheeler

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HenHarrier · 19/02/2020 09:52

The volume of extra marital affairs, pregnancies and children Boris had during his marriage certainly doesn’t suggest he treated his wife with any respect

I’m not convinced he treated his mistresses any better either.

Plus given that as Mayor of London his “recklessness” when it comes to shagging around was judged a matter of public interest, I don’t see why it shouldn’t still be so as PM.

Turquoiseduck · 19/02/2020 09:54

As PM I expect his political and business behaviour to be of a high standard. I have no interest in his private life.

The problem with this is that BJ's political, business and private life are intertwined.

Remember he was sacked from the Tory front bench for lying about his relationship with Petronella Wyatt.

Concurrently, BJ had an affair with a TES journalist and it was alleged that while junior shadow education minister, he got off a flight from China to meet her in Paris.

The Sunday Times journalist Charlotte Edwards claimed that BJ groped her thigh and that of another woman at a private lunch in 1999. JJ denied these allegations.

The Court of Appeal quashed an injunction seeking to ban reporting of the existence of a daughter born as a result of his affair with an art consultant.

And there is currently an ongoing investigation in to his relationship with Jennifer Accuri (who was invited to join BJ on three foreign trade missions, despite not being eligible to go) during his time as London Mayor involving allegations of malfeasance.

And of course there is the blatant double standard, as previously stated, that a female politician would not have been chosen as an MP , never mind Prime Minister, if they had had the above track record.

There has been very little public comment about him living with his partner at no.10 while still married. Fair enough you might think? But how has his position as a former journalist, with friends in high places influenced favourable reporting, especially during the period of his election?

okiedokieme · 19/02/2020 10:37

Didn't seem quick to me - if you can come to an agreement privately it doesn't take long

Nippybutsweet · 19/02/2020 10:41

I am just wondering why now, why not before he ran for the top job?

The finacial information has, unusually for such cases, been kept confidential.

In light of the £15k holiday scandal, in the interests of transparency and to avoid speculations why has the judge not included the information, why was it requested and granted to be kept confidential?

I suppose curiosity killed the cat though.

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Jillyhilly · 19/02/2020 12:42

There has been very little public comment about him living with his partner at no.10 while still married. Fair enough you might think?

Of course if is fair enough. You sound like someone from the 1950s. Who cares?? Most people don’t. This is what happens in people’s lives now.

Before the election Channel 4 did some interesting focus groups from northern leave voting constituencies. BJ’s “proclivities” were brought up and virtually to a man / woman the response was laughter and “well, that’s Boris, a bit like all of us really”. If anything they rather liked the fact that he was living life unapologetically out loud, flaws and all. It was one of the things about him that appealed to them. They could certainly see beyond the fact that he once or twice squeezed someone’s thigh in a restaurant. For people with genuine problems it really was the absolute last thing on their minds.

And it’s hardly Boris’ fault that a female PM who’s fucked lots of people hasn’t yet been elected. That is hilarious. It really takes a lot of mental gymnastics to dream that one up to prove how awful / sexist / misogynistic Boris / the Tories / the entire population of the UK is.

He should have paid for his own holiday though.

windycuntryside · 19/02/2020 12:45

Idle gossip about people online is spiteful. There is nothing to gain from this speculation other than entertainment. That is really sad.

Firelink · 19/02/2020 12:52

The whole point of the internet is to gossip and judge, I love it.

Turquoiseduck · 19/02/2020 12:52

JillyHilly you say I sound like someone from the 1950s whilst ignoring and chopping off the main point in my last point - re-posted below:

There has been very little public comment about him living with his partner atno.10while still married. Fair enough you might think? But how has his position as a former journalist, with friends in high places influenced favourable reporting, especially during the period of his election?

What I was saying that it"s fine that there hasn't been much comment about it, but how has this been achieved? I was suggesting that his former journalistic contacts may have given him an easy ride during the election, which another candidate may not have got such positive coverage. Do you understand the point?

Turquoiseduck · 19/02/2020 12:55

Gah: when another candidate - not which!

StarbucksSmarterSister · 19/02/2020 12:58

Christ, this is his personal business

This is a country where a previous Leader of the Opposition less than 10 years ago effectively had to marry his partner of around 20 years because they had children and it wasn't considered acceptable in case he ended up as PM.

That should have been their personal business but wasn't. I'd say it set a precedent.

StarbucksSmarterSister · 19/02/2020 13:00

And it’s hardly Boris’ fault that a female PM who’s fucked lots of people hasn’t yet been elected.

And probably never will be. Double standards and all that

Jillyhilly · 19/02/2020 13:10

No, Turquoiseduck, there hasn’t been much comment on it because in the year 2020, a “Man living with girlfriend after separating with wife” headline isn’t going to sell papers.

For the rest of it, I really can’t be arsed to rehash the JC vs BJ election press coverage discussion.

JamieVardysHavingAParty · 19/02/2020 13:14

I haven't posted any #BeKind memes, or posted on a single thread about Caroline Flack, before her death or after it.

Do I get to say I find Johnson reprehensible now?

A man who goes from relationship to relationship having child after child doesn't suddenly become a man I can respect because I see him on Today in Parliament instead of on Jeremy Kyle. If he reads this and finds my post "unkind", perhaps he can start exercising some personal responsibility (which used to be a cornerstone of Conservative party policy) and commence "putting something on the end of it".

And don't give me anything about pill failure. Have you not heard of STDs?

Turquoiseduck · 19/02/2020 13:14

The point is that it is absolutely his business when he doesn't mix his personal life with his political business as detailed below, or use his power and influence to cover up indiscretions or potentially inappropriate behaviour, or when that influence allows him preferential treatment in elections.

There is also the point that it does speak (to a degree) to his character , probity and trustworthiness. It could be argued that a person who is prepared to lie in one area of his life may do so in another. Not necessarily of course but there is that potential.

Turquoiseduck · 19/02/2020 13:18

No,Turquoiseduck, there hasn’t been much comment on it because in the year 2020, a “Man living with girlfriend after separating with wife” headline isn’t going to sell papers.

Again Jillyhilly you have completely missed the point! I don't care if he lives with a goat as long as he doesn't pay for that goat to go on trade missions when he is a Minister and he doesn't use press influence to direct attention away from the goat and their joint activities.

Hollyhead · 19/02/2020 13:29

Be kind.

Dozer · 19/02/2020 13:33

No, it’s never the privileged, mediocre Eton menz fault women (and others, eg black people, gay people) are discriminated against! Not their fault at all.

Nippybutsweet · 19/02/2020 14:32

I'm also wondering, if she is, and they dont get married (fair enough in my opinion) what people would make of the double standards regarding the attitudes towards unmarried and single mothers in the Tory party.

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GiveHerHellFromUs · 19/02/2020 16:11

This is a country where a previous Leader of the Opposition less than 10 years ago effectively had to marry his partner of around 20 years because they had children and it wasn't considered acceptable in case he ended up as PM.

So surely you should be happy that we've come so far in 10 years that a couple are no longer being forced to marry so a man can further his career?

Alsohuman · 19/02/2020 16:18

Why would we be happy? How is it any better now?

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 19/02/2020 16:18

You do so enjoy your mindless gossip, don't you, OP?

Nippybutsweet · 19/02/2020 17:04
Grin
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Noodlenosefraggle · 19/02/2020 17:22

This is a country where a previous Leader of the Opposition less than 10 years ago effectively had to marry his partner of around 20 years because they had children and it wasn't considered acceptable in case he ended up as PM.
He pandered to it though and still didnt win, so it didnt make any difference. If he didnt want to get married he should have owned it.

StarbucksSmarterSister · 19/02/2020 22:13

So surely you should be happy that we've come so far in 10 years

Seriously, I don't think we have. If a Labour leader behaved like Johnson he'd be hammered.

Belindabelle · 19/02/2020 22:49

I posted about Ed Miliband and Justine on a previous thread.

Imagine Lisa Nandy or Rebecca Long Bailey refusing to acknowledge how many children they had.

Rumour has it that Boris has cheated on Carrie. Remember the police being called to a domestic at her flat.

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