Boris Johnstone quickly settles divorce.

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AIBU to call it now that his girlfriend is pregnant?

www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2020/feb/18/boris-johnson-agrees-divorce-settlement-with-marina-wheeler

I heard she was pregnant pre-Christmas too. I hope he treats her better then her predecessors.

That's true to a degree @FuckeryOmbudsman (love the name! ), but lots of us are posting to defend Carrie Symmonds if she is pregnant. Personally, I think babies are always lovely and as long as they are happy, then good for them. They are doing zero wrong having a baby together.

I just hope that IF she is pregnant, all is ok, or it could be devastating to read speculation. In fact, I hadn't thought of that. Sorry Carrie! (Doubt she reads mumsnet but in the 1% chance she does.....)

I don’t see any evidence for testing his previous partners badly

His first wife was a short marriage where they both agreed they were unsuited from the beginning

It was a uni relationship and they married at 23, no children and divorced after a few years when he met Marina.

His second marriage has lasted a good 27 years, they are amicable, there’s no reason too say he treated her badly.

She wasn’t distraught that he met another woman.

If I was either of his exes I would hate to have the level of pity some people are giving out

Testing = treating

I can’t believe how many women are falling over themselves to defend a serial adulterer and his mistress. Not a word of sympathy for his wife I note.

As a country we used to have some kind of moral compass and politicians were expected to adhere to it, that seems to have fallen by the wayside.

On a purely practical level, Johnson’s 55. It’s not exactly a great age to start a new family, particularly for someone whose focus is supposed to be steering the country through one of the most turbulent times in its history.

Somebody upthread asked 'where is Boris?'
He doesn't seem to be at work that's for sure.
He has the media wrapped around his finger. It's frightening for the electorate

Alsohjma. - why does his ex need sympathy? Why should she even want our sympathy? She’s happy and fine, she doesn’t want him.

I find it abhorrent that it’s always people feeling sorry for the ex wife as if they will always be left pining over the husband they once had.
How unfeminist

Where is Boris anyway ? Shouldn’t he be visiting the flood hit areas ? Off topic

Theresa May got so much grief when she visited Grenfell.

If my home had been flooded and BJ turned up and said "don't worry we'll give you £500" like they did with the floods last year he'd be told where to go. I don't see what benefit his presence would have.

As long as his party don't start going all "traditional values" on us to justify the vilification of lone parents, especially mums.

Of course it’s not unfeminist, what bollocks. Do you actually know what feminism is @NemophilistRebel? Whether Johnson’s former wife gives a shit or not, she’s still the wronged party.

The hypocrisy of MN is staggering. If someone posts that her bloke’s having an affair the outrage is deafening but apparently it’s all tickety boo when the man who runs the country is a serial shagger. No wonder we’re in such a bloody mess.

I thought we were only allowed to #bekind now? Nothing nice to say don’t say it at all?
Ahhh no, that only counts when the hypocrites decide the face fits.
Got it.

Wheeler is a QC so I imagine she has some idea what’s she’s doing!

I agree it would be sickening if we got “traditional values” parroted by Boris Johnson.

There were a couple of people from flood-hit areas on the radio yesterday saying that they actively DIDN’T want the PM and his entourage turning up - it would get in the way of the work they need to do.

Anyway all this moralising is totally partisan and just another opportunity to put the boot in if you don’t like the current incumbent of No 10. ‘Twas ever thus.

Alsohuman - if she doesn’t consider herself the wronged party why would she want any strangers sympathy?!

I can’t believe how many women are falling over themselves to defend a serial adulterer and his mistress. Not a word of sympathy for his wife I note

I have sympathy if his wife didn't know. But plenty of couples have "arrangements" and there were allegations in the press that his wife had had other relationships whilst married too. Maybe that is what worked for them?

I am more concerned about how much more deeply a sleep deprived Boris could put his foot in it! But then the Blairs had a baby whilst TB was in office and he wasn't a total spring chicken at the time.

But we don't even know if CS IS pregnant. Though if she is and wants to be, then good luck to them both. At least it means BoJo can no longer make comments about unmarried mothers.

We have no idea if she considers herself the wronged party because she’s too classy to say anything. However, technically the spouse of an adulterer is exactly that.

It’s not partisan @Jillyhilly, I expect any politician of any party to have personal morals but I appreciate I’m a complete anachronism.

Tony and Cherie Blair didn't have any baggage such as the circus BJ has given the country to dwell on.
Boris is an ignoramus and a bumbling idiot that should be at work, as far as I'm concerned.

If his wife knew, and was up to the same (as was reported years ago), then does that mean they dont have morals? I don't know. If a couple have an open marriage and aren't deceiving each other, then is that immoral? I am not sure that it is, but appreciate that others may well feel differently. It's such a personal thing.

Teresa May got "grief" when she visited Grenfell therefore no PM should visit a disaster area?

Maybe we could just station giant fridges in the flooded areas so they can feel secure.

I have zero concern or interest for B&C and/or any child they might have. They will be fine. I'm interested in what the Government are doing on behalf of our children.

His second marriage has lasted a good 27 years, they are amicable, there’s no reason too say he treated her badly

So long as you don't count being a serial cheat treating her badly.

Oh well fair enough AlsoHuman, but it is a bit odd that you seem to think “we’re in a bloody mess” because the PM is “a serial shagger”. And I can see that if you’re worried that nobody cares about this on mumsnet, it must absolutely blow your mind that the majority of the electorate doesn’t seem to care either.

And I don’t know your politics so this isn’t addressed to you, but it does seem weird that it’s the more left-wing crowd - who are typically very “anything goes” about relationships / parenting / gender / sexuality - who are all knotted up about BJ, his divorce and his girlfriend. That seems awfully partisan to me. A lot of us have complicated life, love and family situations these days, and we’re prepared to overlook this in our PM if he does a decent job and gets in with things we want him to do because that’s sort of how most people, rightly or wrongly, judge themselves and their nearest and dearest. Of course if you don’t think he’s doing a decent job I can see that there’s a tendency to go after him for this kind of thing.

I don't actually think he'd cheat on Carrie, he's too old now

@NemophilistRebel you must have a very low bar for being treated well. The volume of extra marital affairs, pregnancies and children Boris had during his marriage certainly doesn’t suggest he treated his wife with any respect.

As a country we used to have some kind of moral compass and politicians were expected to adhere to it, that seems to have fallen by the wayside.

When have politicians ever had a moral compass? Sorry, but that really is laughable.

My reference to being in a bloody mess directly referenced MN’s hypocrisy @Jillyhilly, nothing to do with the PM. I find it extremely strange that an online community which considers a visit to a “gentlemen’s club” or a kiss is cheating and condemns it, also thinks that it’s fine for the PM to have the morals of an alley cat.

Hopefully for Ms Symonds he’ll be too busy to cast his eye further afield if they marry, I think it was Sir James Goldsmith who said when a man marries his mistress, he creates a vacancy.