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Do you believe in Heaven ?

307 replies

Sunbliss · 16/02/2020 19:51

Just that. Do you believe in Heaven? If so what do you think it’s like. Im not religious but do believe there is a Heaven or would like to believe there some place we will see loved ones again and find peace ourselves.

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Littlemeadow123 · 16/02/2020 22:27

Yes I do. I believe in God too, because I have experienced things that cannot be explained by science. If anyone wants to know more/ask me anything, feel free to drop me a DM. I won't say any more publicly because I know from experience I'll just get abuse from some people.

LeekMunchingSheepShagger · 16/02/2020 22:27

No. Heaven is a story we tell ourselves to ease our fear of death/the unknown. The idea of hell is used as a method of control, as is the whole concept of religion.

85notout · 16/02/2020 22:30

No. But when you die you still live on in the memories of people so you aren't really gone as long as there are people who have memories of you. At least, 4 days on from my father dying that's what I think. If you disagree please disagree tactfully.

jessyjo2 · 16/02/2020 22:31

Yes I believe in heaven 100%. If we believe in God and commit our lives to him we will meet him in heaven.
We cant b sure exactly what it will b like but there will b no pain or suffering. I'm excited for 1 to see some day what it is like.
If u dont make that commitment, unfortunately u go to hell.
THIS IS THE BIGGEST AND MOST IMPORTANT DECISION OF UR LIFE.

Holyfork · 16/02/2020 22:50

@jessyjo2

Yeah, not worth it, even if what you say is true.

EmeraldShamrock · 17/02/2020 00:28

No I'd like to think that there was a place loved ones went in the sky. My DC believe there is I let them believe as it is a comfort, I tell them some believe some don't no one can know for sure. I'm christened Catholic it is hard to be an non believer.
Though when the shit hits the fan I ask God to help, or when I lose something I ask an angel. Blush Grin I always find it.

swelchphr · 17/02/2020 00:31

Yes

EmeraldShamrock · 17/02/2020 00:31

@85notout Flowers Very true. I lost a very special family member a few years ago, I still talk to him and think of him often, it is a different relationship but still a close relationship. ❤

ErrolTheDragon · 17/02/2020 00:52

No. And it seems that many religious people seem to cling to this life, even when in great pain, to such an extent that I'm not sure they all really believe it either.

Still, it's a nice idea so if it comforts you fine. OTOH I've no idea why any decent person would believe in hell, or worship a god who created everything including it.

85notout · 17/02/2020 01:00

Thank you Emerald. I am not coping tonight.

Madhairday · 17/02/2020 01:02

Yes I do, as a Christian. I think it makes sense of so many things - the sense that there must be more, that there should be justice, that hope carries us forward. I don't know what it will look like but know there will be no more pain, no more tears, no more death.

Madhairday · 17/02/2020 01:03

I'm so sorry for your loss 85notout Flowers

StarlightLady · 17/02/2020 02:59

Religion: Clitorist.

A powerful orgasm takes me to heaven regularly!!!!!!

steff13 · 17/02/2020 03:05

Yes

85notout · 17/02/2020 08:39

Starlightlady what an asinine thing to post.

StarlightLady · 17/02/2020 10:34

@85notout - it was meant to be a fun comment (hence the explanation mark) but maybe with an element of truth. l did not mean to cause offence. I have been to 2 funerals this year, so l do know about loss.

I apologise. Flowers

LastTrainEast · 17/02/2020 10:48

85notout what you said about living on in memories is true and beautiful. I never achieved anything worthy of a Nobel Prize, but I know I changed people by being here and that's what matters.

hydeandrun · 17/02/2020 10:52

no and I frankly cannot get my head around how any reasonable adult could believe in that kind of stuff. There is no evidence, nothing. I find it mind boggling to say the least.

Lifeisgenerallyfun · 17/02/2020 10:59

Depends what you mean by heaven I suppose. But I believe when we die our energy/spirit/soul is absorbed into the energy around us without consciousness. In that way we are reunited with our loved ones as our energies will all be part of this greater energy.

As new people are born and grow they draw on this energy that surrounds us all to grow their own spirits/souls/energy and thus we always remain part of life.

The energy that surrounds us is, by necessity of physics, positive and negative in nature (heaven and hell in a Christian context) it’s up to us whether we draw on the positive (heaven) or the negative (hell) to shape our experience in this life.

OutwiththeOutCrowd · 17/02/2020 11:18

For me, 'believe in heaven' is the wrong phrase. 'Hope for heaven' covers it better. I don't know what 'heaven' would mean, though, except as a sort of shorthand for a continuity of awareness after death in some ill-defined way.

Life is unsatisfactory, short or full of pain for too many people and I would like to think that we do have an opportunity to experience something more.

It's not a belief, however, just a wish!

I don't mind the materialistic view of atoms constantly rearranging into different forms but I would like the information content that constitutes a person to be preserved in some more direct way than just in the memories of the living.

The universe has not divulged whether this is possible but I continue to hope.

Grasspigeons · 17/02/2020 11:25

I was taught hell is living in the absence of God and sometimes think maybe we are living in hell! I have some wonderful things in my life but i have one of the most pampered lives going and it is still tough.
As for heaven we were taught it is the presence of god. Which was vague enough it could be anything you want.
I dont personally believe in a fluffy place you go to. I think its just like before you are born.

Mischance · 17/02/2020 11:30

This is a very pertinent question for me as my husband died two weeks go. It would be comforting to think he was somewhere at peace, but I cannot believe that. I do believe that he has simply come to an end and am grateful that he is no longer suffering.

He was a scientist and I know he believed that he would simply be recycled and become part of nature as it rolls on. He has gone back to the stardust and his atoms will simply be recycled into different things. The law of conservation of energy means that all he ever touched/was/did is not destroyed; but only his physical body.

Is there anything in this that I might take comfort from? - not really. I just have to bite the bullet and get on with life as best I may.

As he lay dying he asked me: what is the point of life if there is no god? I had no answer for him. I am sad about that. I could have lied; I could have simply said (as I did): I am very sorry sweetheart but I cannot answer that.

It is weird to think he was here one minute and gone the next; but that is the fact and I have to live with that.

vdbfamily · 17/02/2020 11:47

as a Christian I do believe in Heaven. I believe our time on earth is just preparation with glimpses of what is to come. I sat for 2 weeks at my brother's bedside in a hospice a few months ago. He had a strong faith and was actually looking forward to heaven. He had a brain tumour and lost ability to speak weeks before but was singing his favourite praise songs until a few days before he died and was still able to him along on the day he died. My sister in law had a message a few days after he died from a friend who is not a Christian dating that he had had a really vivid dream of my brother the day he died. He was standing on top of a beautiful hill with a beautiful light shiny on him and as he walked towards it he turned round and smiled at this friend and gave him a thumbs up ' this is good' signal and walked into the light. He does not usually dream at all and found out next day that my brother had died the evening before. He had been very challenged by this and a few weeks later when my sister in law was visiting my brother's favourite place in France, she sent a photo to this friend of the landscape as it sounded like his description of the dream and he was amazed and said that was what he had seen. It is a great comfort to me that he had no fear and was confident as he breathed his last on earth that he was actually awakening to something even more amazing.

DBML · 17/02/2020 11:54

No one can prove the existence of heaven. But there again, no one can disprove that heaven exists.
Therefore I don’t know what to believe; I can only hope, that one day I will be reunited with the ones I love.
If that doesn’t happen - then I’ll never know anyway.

CanIHaveATiaraPlease · 17/02/2020 11:58

Flowers For those who ha e lost loved ones.

I hope there is - I’d like to be reunited with my babies that didn’t make it to this life.

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