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Michael Barrymore

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ChairsAndStairs · 06/02/2020 21:29

I’ve always wondered why his career was so badly damaged by what happened at his house.

It was awful that a man died, but he was never found guilty and it was never proved that he was in any way involved - as far as I remember.

He was so popular before and had a really strong career. AIBU to wonder why people turned against him so quickly?

I don’t mean this to be a goady thread, just generally wondering why he was the ‘only’ fall guy for what happened.

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Lalala205 · 06/02/2020 22:36

To be honest 'Strike it Lucky' would be about as likely to get air time on 'Gold', as 'Ralph's Animal Hospital', or re runs of 'Jim'll Fix It' 🙄 I actually appeared on one of the above... And yes, the host was very 'odd' even before everything came to light.

DingDongDenny · 06/02/2020 22:39

I think the real question is how the hell he and the others got away with whatever happened and why he's not in jail.

I agree - I always though he was creepy as fuck and a total misogynist.

And as others have said a total - poor me victim - after the event

Pulpfiction1 · 06/02/2020 22:40

If it had been a woman, he'd have been back on tv much sooner.

My thoughts entirely. #roughsexgonewrong
He wouldn't have even had to deny it. Fair game when it's us girls.

Noodlenosefraggle · 06/02/2020 22:41

From the documentary it looks like MB's PAhas gone into the house to 'tidy up' Why the hell did he go in? How did he know to go in and remove items? Its dodgy as fuck. I suspect they have all done something/ egged people on/ held him down etc and they dont want to implicate themselves.

Noconceptofnormal · 06/02/2020 22:41

I read somewhere that his injuries were horrendous. He was obviously thrown in the pool to look like drowning and to get rid of dna evidence, the cause of death was not drowning.

I haven't seen the documentary but there was obviously a huge cover up, which the evidence points towards Barrymore being involved in.

At the very least he has acted in a callous way, protecting those who have done something horrific to try and salvage his career, at the worst he was involved in some way.

I hope one day his family gets some answers and some peace.

Ontheboardwalk · 06/02/2020 22:45

That Susan Boyle clip is disturbing. Thats not normal behaviour

Doyoumind · 06/02/2020 22:47

I never liked Michael Barrymore anyway. I don't understand why he was so popular. I avoided his shows like the plague.

It's not plausible that he doesn't know what happened. There were only a few people there and at least one of them knows exactly what happened. I think they are terrible people for allowing his sexual assault and probable murder to go unpunished.

FromEden · 06/02/2020 22:47

The pool thermometer has been common knowledge in Harlow for years.

What do you mean? Didnt the police say from almost the beginning that they believed it was used in the crime?

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Pulpfiction1 · 06/02/2020 22:52

It annoys me that people keep calling it a party. It wasn't a party. A group of people went to a house to take drugs and have sex after a club. That's a gathering or meet up. A party in that size house insinuates 20+ people. So quite believable that Barrymore wouldn't have known what went on.

8 people present. The fact no one talked - even the women, shows they were all involved.

After watching the doc, I'm pretty sure Barrymore is a psycho.

dayswithaY · 06/02/2020 23:01

I think some people have talked - just not to police.

JockTamsonsBairns · 06/02/2020 23:01

I just can't believe that MB knew nothing of what went on at his house that night. It's inconceivable that, with such a small gathering, where Stuart Lubbock sustained such horrendous injuries and died, that MB didn't notice any wrongdoing.
I can just about, at a stretch, believe that he panicked, and that his instinct was to flee. But surely, if he was indeed innocent as he claims he is, he'd be extremely keen to get back to help with the investigations, and to do his bit in finding out what happened to the poor victim. He's done none of that, and his entire focus throughout the past 19 years has been self-protection.
I haven't watched the programme yet, but I'm not convinced I'll see anything that'll change my perspective.

MarthasGinYard · 06/02/2020 23:06

I'd be surprised even given possible 'over time shifts in loyalties' or However they phrased it that anyone will come forward. They would be terrified of the backlash and being charged themselves.

Shocking and after watching that I'm even more repulsed by MB.

Noodlenosefraggle · 06/02/2020 23:07

Yes, and another outlandish excuse at the end of the documentary from his 'people' that SL wasn't murdered but fell on the poolside, presumably onto an upright pool thermometer? So after accusing hospital staff of necrophilia he's now still saying it was an accident again? Why not 'someone did this but we don't know who' instead of denying the coroner's conclusions that he died as a result of a serious sexual assault?

MarthasGinYard · 06/02/2020 23:11

His 'anal injuries possibly sustained from the poolside falling in' or something like that.

Incredulous

Shocking how way the whole rape and murder was dealt with.

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 06/02/2020 23:12

nobody thinks MB actually murdered the poor guy or knows who did

Really? I think he knows exactly what happened. 9 people in his house and no one knows what happened ? Come on,pull the other one.

beckywiththeshithair20 · 06/02/2020 23:14

I'll be honest I've always been of the opinion that Barrymore wasn't guilty purely because the incident happened at his house. But having seen that documentary and seeing how he only seemed to care about saving his own skin, I think he's a twat regardless. A man died in horrendous circumstances and he didn't cooperate with the police or show any genuine concern other than for himself and his career. Never liked him much even at his peak and have a strong feeling that something is a bit off with him.

Feel so sorry for the family of Stuart after watching that.

Doyoumind · 06/02/2020 23:17

Also, as they said in the documentary, there were only 3 men there so the number of suspects is very small. A woman is highly unlikely to have inflicted those injuries, or at least not alone, on a grown man. One of those people was involved in inserting something into him. That is undeniable.

rabbitwoman · 06/02/2020 23:18

I don't like Barrymore for the way he treated Cheryl - awful, awful abuse and misogyny. He us also very self pitying about Stewart lubbock.

However, in the piers Morgan interview, didn't he say that his solicitor advised him to get out of the house at the time or something? Didn't he say everything he did was on legal advice? Or am I imagining that?

longwayoff · 06/02/2020 23:18

He was present. He refused to answer questions - within his rights to do so - at the inquest but has been happy to publicly speculate on scenarios that are improbable. His fans, I'm not one and never have been, have looked at him and for the most part have done this Hmm and voted with their feet. All that aside, he is a deeply unpleasant person. Read Mrs Barrymore's account of life with him.

Notthebloodygym · 06/02/2020 23:18

If I were a betting person, I'd say he did it.

userxx · 06/02/2020 23:23

He so knows what happened.

Pulpfiction1 · 06/02/2020 23:27

Also, as they said in the documentary, there were only 3 men there

I also just watched the doc and I know what bit you are referring to. It was badly explained but what they meant was that after tracing the groups steps that night, only 3 men could have been responsible - one of which was Barrymore. There was 9 people at that party 1 was Stewart I think 2 maybe 3 women. The other men they think for some reason couldn't have been present.

Pulpfiction1 · 06/02/2020 23:29

He so knows what happened.

I think a few of them did it and Barrymore was one of them. The others know what happened and he probably paid them to keep quiet.

TheCraicDealer · 06/02/2020 23:30

The three men who were said to have had the opportunity were Barrymore, his BF Kennedy, and the bouncer fella whose sister was also in attendance at the "party".