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To think Tracy Brabin should be able to wear what she wants ?

309 replies

Clawdy · 05/02/2020 13:59

She's been the subject of criticism and vitriol all day about her dress, which she apparently wore to an earlier social event. She's a bright, lively and committed MP, who cares what she wears?

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DarklyDreamingDexter · 05/02/2020 16:09

I was going to say it’s not unreasonable to wear the same dress, then I looked it up. An off the shoulder dress in the HoC? Totally inappropriate. Didn’t she have a cardigan, jacket or scarf she could sling over the top? Nobody deserves vitriol, but what she wore was totally wrong. Attention seeking maybe?

CuriousaboutSamphire · 05/02/2020 16:13

Fucking hell!

This thread is really uncomfortable! Such weirdly judgemental posts! Women tearing onto another woman base don how she looks, how she presents. Fuck me - you are all saying she DOES NOT PASS!

How very 1950s of you!

She went out dressed for one occasion, has a newly broken ankle and probably chose to go there and back with as little baggage as possible.

Then got called into HoC. For some reason her crystal ball wasn't working and she neglected to provide herself with additional clothing to cover her indecent self up!

Attention seeking? Fuck's sake!

Some of you are totally bobbins - and that's being lkind!

Maduixa · 05/02/2020 16:15

WorraLiberty

Sorry I wasn't clear - I meant under the specific circumstances - where she was called in unexpectedly for an important discusion, which would have proceeded without her if she'd waited outside until someone found her a cover-up. (Just my opinion/preference - fine to argue that she should have sat it out.)

Dorsetdays · 05/02/2020 16:17

An off the shoulder dress is inappropriate for a workplace such as this.

It also looked out of place and inappropriate for the event she wore it to prior to being called to the HofC (if you look at the photos of her at that event, nobody else is wearing something that looks like they’re off to a club, all in standard, smart casual office wear) so that’s not an excuse either.

She could easily have pulled it back up onto her shoulder or put her jacket on if she didn’t have time to change...

ChardonnaysDistantCousin · 05/02/2020 16:17

Yay, look at all these women supporting other women. FFS.

Oh please. Just because someone is the same sex doesn't mean I have to support all their actions. What a simple way of looking at this.

Aveisenim · 05/02/2020 16:17

Doesn't deserve to be abused for what she wore. Wasn't appropriate for work, especially not in the HoC. Most workplaces have a dress code, the HoC is particularly strict AFAIK. Her dress did not fit the dress code.

dottiedodah · 05/02/2020 16:17

I like Tracy, and think she is a role model for the very few working class women (and men) who make it into Parliament .However I do not think her dress would be acceptable in many workplaces .Women need to be taken seriously and need to dress appropriatly IMO .Men would not be accepted in a T shirt and shorts only !

saraclara · 05/02/2020 16:17

She went out dressed for one occasion, has a newly broken ankle and probably chose to go there and back with as little baggage as possible.

Again. It's the beginning of February. She didn't leave the house that morning without something over that bare shoulder.

mencken · 05/02/2020 16:19

wrong outfit for work, and the piss would have been taken in most offices for that. BUT the horrendous sexual slurs have absolutely no justification.

Her tweet in response was brilliant!

megletthesecond · 05/02/2020 16:21

She did NOT deserve the abuse but it was a really inappropriate business outfit. You wouldn't get away with it in most offices.

Fine for drinks and a night out. But not for work.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 05/02/2020 16:23

Again. It's the beginning of February. She didn't leave the house that morning without something over that bare shoulder. Where you there?

Broken ankle - She could have got straight into a taxi, same a the other end with every expectation of doing it again on the way home!

Have you seen the other pictures of her, with her little trolley for her leg and a small bag slung over her back? She didn't have additonal clothing then either!

The desire to slate her is weird, unsettling.

Likefootball · 05/02/2020 16:24

Surely it's how well she does her job that's important,not what she wears.
That top does not look too bad by the way.

Alsohuman · 05/02/2020 16:25

Nobody has yet said why they think it’s inappropriate. Anyone?

CuriousaboutSamphire · 05/02/2020 16:26

Also You can see her shoulder It's it's it's BARE!!!!

anyoldvic · 05/02/2020 16:26

She was inappropriately dressed for the setting, so the visuals drowned out her message. Man or woman, it makes no odds.

Corbyn got plenty of vitriol for wearing that anorak on Remembrance Sunday.

TheMemoryLingers · 05/02/2020 16:27

There are no grounds to abuse her.

That outfit would breach most office dress-codes, but it's hardly something to get excited about.

itwaseverthus · 05/02/2020 16:29

The outfit detracted from the message, therefore inappropriate in that setting. Sober dressing is pretty much what's expected there. As others said, slinging a cardi or jacket over would have done fine. I don't believe she didn't have an office cardi lying around, or went to work without a covering of some sort. It just smacks of an actress, which she is, garnering attention. Meh, she got it.

Grasspigeons · 05/02/2020 16:29

Its innappropriate because its cold. Its is wooly jumper weather.

WhatKatyDidNot · 05/02/2020 16:31

It looked like evening wear so no, not appropriate for a work day. But the HoC doesn't work like that and she'd rushed back from an event. Hardly the end of the world. I think the AIBU is more why the fuck is everyone talking about it, to be honest. Woman has to rush back to work to make an intervention and looks a bit daft because she's in semi party gear. The fabric of society has not crumbled.

Spidey66 · 05/02/2020 16:32

I'm with others. I have no problem with the outfit, but it's totally inappropriate to wear to work in the House of Commons. If she worked in retail in the sort of shop that sells that sort of clothing, or an informal office, it may well be fine but not the HoC. Otherwise, keep it for a night out or other informal setting.

I wouldn't expect BoJo to go into work wearing a Hawaiian shirt, shorts and flip flops, but this would be fine while he's on the beach or in his back garden on a summers day. (If we get a summer, seems like ages away.) It's the same thing.

I don't think she deserved the vitriol though.

Dorsetdays · 05/02/2020 16:35

Whatkatydid. You obviously haven’t seen the photo from the event she was at in the afternoon? Not one other person was wearing anything remotely party-like except for her. Out of place and unprofessional for both ‘events’.

SisterAgatha · 05/02/2020 16:36

I think her outfit is the clothes equivalent of Jacob Reese Moog with his lazy arse all over the benches. It’s a workplace not a student union. Everyone should look smart sit straight and not let what they are wearing or how they are lounging detract from their work

Notonthestairs · 05/02/2020 16:38

I smiled at the reference up thread to a "naked shoulder". Very Mata Hari.

The outfit was wrong. I wouldn't have worn it. But can't get excited about it.

What was she was giving a speech about? None of the newspapers seem to give any detail?

heath48 · 05/02/2020 16:39

It was highly inappropriate to wear in the House of Commons!!!!! Those dresses that show one shoulder are awful at the best of times.

What was she thinking of!!!there needs to be a dress code in the HOC,same as they have in the USA.There Politicians always look immaculately presented.

Doesn’t look as if she is going to apologise anytime soon ,if she was my MP I would be furious.

Crapediem · 05/02/2020 16:41

She was dressed inappropriately.
Even as off the shoulder dresses go it was quite a revealing one.
But agree she didn't deserve vitriol, just a stern reminder of the dress code.

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