To think that Brexit is happening. Just get over it. We will be fine.

[Lifeonmars77]

It is done, what will be will be... what is the point in getting stressed over it now?

'Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.'

Right so let's get on with it....

• what about my pension form my time on the continent. Will I still get that now we have left?
• can I take my dog on holiday with us this year? I let the passport lapse as we didn't need it before
• what about the E111 can we still use that or will we need travel insurance?
• what about my mobile and network roaming charges? Any deal on that?

Just a few questions that we still don't have answers for, nevermind more basic questions about security and information sharing as stated above. This decision to leave will affect so many areas of our lives and we still don't have a plan for most of them. What a shit show.

Boris has already ordered budget cuts of at least 5% but as long we're serene about it...

Depends on which newspaper you read;

"Treasury sources said the cuts are designed to shut down poor-value schemes and quangos to free up funds for Boris Johnson’s priorities of the NHS, fighting crime and “levelling up” different regions of the country."

I just need reassurance that I'm not going to lose my job.

I am getting on with my life - I've got a nasty virus atm so I'm limited in what I can do but it's stopped raining so I'm going to go for a wee walk and get some fresh air.

"Get over it"
And of course there is the posibility of the break up of the nation, with the SNP pushing again for an Indy Ref after Scotland has been forced out of the EU against their will. Also, there is still no answer to the Irish back stop.

The attitude seems to be Scotland can fuck off and who gives a shit about Northern Ireland. Well I care and I'm still desperately worried about these two issues. After all these years since the vote and after all the negotiations there is still no solution.

I agree OP, someone actually likened it yesterday to the feeling when someone dies. Completely OTT imo. No point in being all dramatic and pathetic over it now, it's done. Time will tell.

@Hotpinkangel19 but it isn't done. It isn't even in the vicinity of being done. These negotiations will take decades.

Even if it were done I still wouldn't accept it. I will be immediately looking to start campaigning to rejoin.

Completely agree.

I voted remain but am a democrat and accept the result.

But am woefully bored of the whining and moaning the hysteria is even worse.

Chin up people and get on with it.

Hotpinkangel19 what exactly do you think is "done"? It's just another small shuffley step along a very, very long road. The referendum result was meant to mean it was "done", then the much delayed triggering of article 50, then the much delayed withdrawal date...

Today is the start of... most things between the EU and UK remaining the same while yet another deadline for agreeing what's actually going to happen ticks closer.

What will happen on 31 December 2020? An extension to the transition period because nothings been agreed probably...

It's a whole load of fairly dismal nothing, like waiting in the halls of slightly rundown hospital for a patient with a terminal diagnosis to die. You don't want them to die, but you can't help wondering whether they shouldn't be allowed to do so peacefully instead of constantly having their life artificially prolonged with tube feeding and antibiotics while their family wait in a kind of limbo ...

YABU for saying ‘just get over it’. The people who thought we shouldn’t have joined the EU (or the version it was then) didn’t ‘get over it’ even thought it had been more than 40 years.

“The attitude seems to be Scotland can fuck off and who gives a shit about Northern Ireland. Well I care and I'm still desperately worried about these two issues.”

Me too. I have family in NI with lived experience of the Troubles. That issue is not resolved.

I might lose my job due to lack of eu funding and loss of contracts, but never mind, nothing to stress over.

Might be fine for you, OP but I am not convinced me and mine will be OK. But we are somewhere between ‘working poor’ and ‘low paid professional’ and struggle already. I also feel my children’s futures will be devoid of any opportunities as a result of Brexit. So no, not fine. Not fine at all.

Lots of people on various FB groups I follow who are posting that "we've left and the world didn't end" and using the fact that today is the same as yesterday as proof that all of the predictions on the economy/jobs/travel/trade, etc were wrong. I don't think they realise that it hasn't even started yet as we're still in the transition period.

Treasury sources said the cuts are designed to shut down poor-value schemes and quangos to free up funds for Boris Johnson’s priorities of the NHS, fighting crime and “levelling up” different regions of the country

Erm....? Tell that to those living in Blackpool. 8 out of 10 of he country’s most deprived wards in the town.

www.thirdsector.co.uk/austerity-front-line-blackpool-based-charities-fighting-years-deprivation/local-action/article/1670746

Figures this week suggested the town would experience more funding cuts next financial year. No levelling up happening there.

I am a remainer but I think that Mumsnet is so anti brexit it is ridiculous.
People seem to actively want it to fail just to prove a point.
We have to look forward to the future and make the most of some of the positive aspects of it ( and there are some, they are just too stubborn to admit it) and minimise the bad stuff. Stop tying to talk us all into failure.

"People seem to actively want it to fail just to prove a point."

There is a difference between wanting something to fail and being aware that we have already failed. The question any sensible person has been asking for fuck knows how many years is what, exactly, are the positive aspects?

Nobody can answer that, because there are none. There is nothing to gain out of this, and we are losing plenty.

People who come out with the 'we need to pull together line' can just fuck off. It's time for the wankers who supported brexit to fucking own it and take responsibility for the shitshow they created.

People seem to actively want it to fail just to prove a point.

I promise you, that’s not true. I’m absolutely desperate for it to work out, my children have to live with this decision, I’ll be absolutely thrilled if we see any marked improvement by being out of the EU.

Which positive aspects in particular should we be looking forward to? This isn’t a sarcastic question - I really am so ready to be persuaded.

But how can remainers "talk it into failure?" We have no control over what happens now, the politicians do. If there are objective benefits then they will become apparent and Brexit will be successful. How can Brexit be damaged by people being unconvinced it will succeed?

You might be fine but 3 million EU citizens in the UK and a million plus UK citizens in EU EU haven't been fine in years and won't be fine as their rights are being shredded. Maybe try employing some empathy and look beyond your own immediate needs. I'd say travel would help but I guess that just got a bit harder for you.

We can’t sunshine

Its a really weird thing to say...in my opinion obviously

I’m another who would be delighted to be wrong about this. And has zero influence over whether it’s a success or not. If it’s as much of a shit show as I fear don’t try and blame remainers for not getting behind it. And if it’s utopia I won’t take any credit for something I voted against. I’ll admit I was wrong.

Sotiredofthislife
Blackpool - Figures this week suggested the town would experience more funding cuts next financial year. No levelling up happening there.

Not the impression I got from your link - there are a lot of positives in the article;

"There is regeneration in the works, and hope of a brighter future for Blackpool.Tourism is performing well...And the town has redevelopment plans in place. About £300m has been invested in the tourism industry since the mid-2000s and further investment of £100m is due to extend Blackpool’s tram system, develop new hotels and create a food market, a "flying theatre", a museum and a new conference centre."

"The council’s existing five-year redevelopment plan, due to be completed before the end of 2024, has also highlighted work to improve the town’s housing stock, with 250 new affordable homes already built."

"despite the challenges Blackpool faces, there is hope for the future" ...

"I sense we are moving in the direction that we need to, but I firmly believe we need to do it together."

"I feel more positive now there is greater certainty around the future direction of the country," ... ^"Hopefully, there will be
a move away from the inertia that’s been the theme in parliament since the referendum on the European Union."^

"Higher levels of investment in Blackpool seem a possibility now that two MPs from the same political party are representing the town" ... "Commitments were made by the Conservatives during the election to end austerity and invest in public services that will make a difference to our clients.I’ll be watching to see how this unfolds."

"Blackpool is among 101 towns across the country that have been invited to bid for a share of the £3.6bn Towns Fund."

Going forward, the main criticism in the article seems to be directed at council leaders and their lack of engagement with charities.

"own it"

A soundbite from people complaining about others using soundbites.

As for this being a goady thread, is this more humour from those posting on yet not complaining about other goady remainer threads?

Leaver wisdom is an oxymoron

@olivehater what are the positives? I am genuinely interested as I have not managed to glean this information from anywhere as of yet.

I don't want it to fail, why would I? The well-being of my family and friends depends on it succeeding. I want that far more than hi to able to say "I told you so". But right now I think it will fail because I have not yet seen anyone anywhere list and tangible positives.