To think Ms isn't pronounced the same as Miss?

[MelAndShoe]

I want to change to be known as Ms. When looking on google about how to do that I came across a mn thread where there was some debate over pronunciation. Now I'm genuinely unsure...but obviously have to make a "Statement" for you to agree/disagree with to get a vote!

I've heard Ms being mis mizz and miss being well...miss. but thread seemed to suggest that was nonsense and both should be miss.

So yanbu is they are pronounced differently
Yabu is they are the same.

It annoys me that we are even asked if we are Miss, Mrs or Ms. What business is it of anybody else? Nobody asks men if they are married or single (rant over)!

www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/ms_2

I think this has both!

Mizz, rhymes with fizz.

I have been married for 32 years and have never used Mrs because it's no-one's business.

Ok good. That's what I had always thought but this thread that came up when I searched seemed to suggest it was 100% pronounced the same and lots of people agreed. How odd! Thanks.

Out of interest, my google search wasn't very helpful, do I just start using it?!

I'd say "mizz" to rhyme with fizz.

I've never heard "muzz" before. Like the beginning of muzzle?

I got asked today if I was a mrs or a ms pronounced as a kind of in between of mizz and muzz. Can't really describe the sound she made any better. I would say M-uh-zzz

Ms comes out sort of like 'Muzz' here - not a really long "uh" sound, but more 'muzz than 'mizz'

Whereas Miss is like miss, obviously

I say muzz but the is more similar to put one in put that the one in buzz.

Sorry more similar to the one in ‘put’ than the one in ‘buzz’.

I say mzzz rather that mizz. I hope that’s right!

'Muzz' sounds a bit daft to me. Like it's based on a mistake. I notice that in America where 'Ms' seems the default it always seems to be pronounced 'Mizz'.

Like pps said, Ms, Miss and Mrs are all based on 'Mistress', which used to be the title for both married and unmarried women about 300 years ago I believe. Really no need for all this 'Is it Miss or Mrs?' nonsense in 2020. Not everyone a woman comes into contact with has to be made aware of her marital status, it's sexist and childish.

Ms = Muzz or Mizz

Miz rhymes with Liz.

Miss/Mzz.

I always say Mzzz when I see Ms.
And Miss for well for miss

Mizz is the only one I have ever heard, but I live overseas.

In US, Australian and "international English" contexts, it is always "mizz" and in these contextsunlike in the UKMs. is the standard default form and considered completely acceptable. I wonder if the weird "muzz" or "mzzz" pronunciation is connected in some way with the way Ms. doesn't seem to have caught on to the same extent in the UK.

forum.wordreference.com/threads/pronunciation-ms-and-miss.366065/

The word "ms." seems to be have created as a "fully formalized" version of a mode of speaking that was actually common in some parts of the United States since the 19th century or perhaps earlier---whereby both "miss" and "missis" got blurred together into a "miz" sound. If you watch Gone With The Wind, you will hear the references to "Miz Ellen" and "Miz Mellie" etc. So this is definitely the original pronunciation.

I'm not precious on the pronunciation. But I absolutely insist on being a Miss (if a title is required). I was born a Miss and I have no desire to change: until I get my PhD that is

Ms = Mizz, like the magazine was called.

On opening this thread I just, for the first time ever, realised that.

It's pronounced Muzzzz

Its Master for single men, like Miss for women. Ms was created because women didnt want to be denoted as Miss or Mrs, which means "mistress of"

I say it M-zz. It's closer to Muzz than Mizz, but doesn't rhyme with Fuzz/Buzz.

And like a PP I correct people who call me Mz. I am Miss. Always have been. (And probably always will be)

I can remember when Ms was introduced. It was pronounced Mizz, ie somewhere between miss and missiz. It only started to be pronounced as Mzzz later, when people forgot or didn't know its origins.