To ask a sex offender not to attend

[Pondlife87]

I have recently found out a sex offender teaches an exercise class I teach. He has served time for secretly filming women in the shower and on the toilet, and for having indecent (classified as severe) photos of children on his computer. It has made me feel very vulnerable. What would you do?

Tell him to clear off and why, in front of the whole class.

I know he has a legal right to attend the class. HOWEVER, I can't forgive his crime. Ever. So what I'd do is, informally spread the word among the women about this scum and hopefully they'll all drop out of the class or at least be aware. In addition, they might make his time there so unbearable that he himself will stop out. Utter vile piece of shit!

What sort of group did he ask you to attend? Is he trying to rehabilitate.

See I’m torn on this however, heart has to rule the head here.

Head says, he’s served his time etc and should be allowed to do what he likes (legally) having done so.
My heart says, fuck that absolutely no way.

Anyone legal, no where OP would stand legally on barring him??

Good luck OP

Sex offenders have rights. I know this through very difficult personal circumstances. It's not necessarily right or fair but it is true. You need proper advice on what to do. Someone will be responsible for safeguarding and it's for them to look into this.

I din’t think this type of sexual offender ever rehabilitates.

You just know if it gets out amongst your other clients that they’ll leave your class. They won’t want their forms being appreciated by a pervert.

It's your class that you're running, you can choose if you don't want a particular person to attend. He doesn't have a legal right to be there, no more than I have. Just tell him that he's no longer welcome.

I wouldn,t mind attending. I think it is very difficult for him, one wrong look and he opens himself up to all sorts of accusations (rightly or wrongly. It,s the ones you don,t know which you need to worry about. I mean do you know if anyone else has a criminal or abusive past? (or is ignorance bliss.). Seek advice from the leisure centre.

You wouldn’t mind attending a class with a sex offender ? In particular a sex offender convicted of crimes against children ?

Filming women surly hes still on the register or shouldnt be in the vicinty of that sort of place where women take showers

Can you make the class women only?

Or create a new class...15 minutes later than the current one, and disband the one he's in (not letting him join the new one?)

I would hate to be in a class with a known offender; sorry but there's no way he's there to work on his yoga.

Making the class female only is a v good idea.
Is he the only man ?

The problem with ostracising SO, is they will then seek to hang around with those of a similar nature, who accept them, thus making it much more likely they will re-offend.

Has he behaved in anyway inappropriately during the class?

Would the police have made certain conditions of his licence ie not to access public sports and fitness centres etc?

Exactly LJ Monster. That's kind of my point. t least you can keep an eye on someone in public.

I was wondering the same thing as girlsblouse
The very nature of his previous crime and the location and choice of his new hobby worry me. I know that ostracising has its own negative implications but there are plenty of ways to keep fit that don’t involve attending all female yoga classes. I hope things go well for you with the leisure centre if/when you speak to them. It would be good for common sense to win through on this one.

I would not want him anywhere near me. A person who relishes seeing children abused and women violated is a monster. Those urges do not go away. There is no treatment for them.

And for the monstrous use of the term child p%%%, just think about what you are saying. Do jot be cavalier about something so heinous.

I think you are right to want him out of your class. Find out how you can accomplish this.

*The problem with ostracising SO, is they will then seek to hang around with those of a similar nature, who accept them, thus making it much more likely they will re-offend.
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Your logic is flawed. Before offending the first time, paedophiles are not ostracised. They are often well-respected members of society. And still they manage to find others of their depraved ilk with whom to share child abuse, live and recorded. So spare me that argument. Ostracised or not, they will re-offend.

They always re-offend.

It's interesting that some people on here are concerned about the sex offender's rights, rather than the safety of women in the class. It is long overdue for all women to feel completely confident in saying, "no" to men who abuse in this way. We really don't have to accommodate them in any way.

I make no apologies that I would not want to attend a class he's at and that I'd want to know.

Yes to the sweep of the changing rooms and class for spyware.

It's unclear what "criminal justice" records you checked and how you were able to do this?

This is a tricky one because it's almost impossible to take the emotion out of the subject. Of course, your instinct will be that you don't want him in your class. That's understandable. The difficulty is that unless he is breaching any specific legal conditions imposed on him by attending this class, then he's not doing anything wrong just by being there.

Sex offenders do live among us, however abhorrent that idea is to people. They have to work, to shop for food and other goods, to do things like get their hair cut, exercise, attend places of worship, go the doctors or the dentist, all sorts of stuff that will inevitably bring them into contact with people who would rather not be anywhere near them. So where do you draw the line? Should he be banned from attending any exercise classes at all? What about the gym itself, I doubt anyone would want to work out next to a sex offender there either? Should he be banned from jogging anywhere where there may be female joggers? At a certain point it becomes tantamount to being on house arrest.

Trying to take on the different issues:

a) Discomfort of other class attendees in exposing positions and body revealing clothing if they were to know about him.

b) The fact that other attendees/potential attendees have potential for creepy intentions but are not known to have convictions for SO.

c) The rights/needs of an ex offender who has served their time. As a PP said, ostracising him is not necessarily in the best interests of society as a whole.

I'm wondering, and this is more brainstorming than a concrete suggestion, if you could announce a policy of loose clothing rather than tights and leggings, and position him in the class so his ogling possibilities are gone? Maybe right at the front so he's not behind anyone?