To think we shouldn't be bringing brits back from China

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I see the US are rescuing their citizens.
How does this work?
Do they quarantine the plane, crew & passengers

Surely this just creates more risk

IMHO lockdown should mean lockdown

OP I completely you get saying that as a nurse

One of my family works in healthcare and says the only reason he can cope is that he can switch his empathy button on and off.

Btw thank you to all nurses!

Anyone recall this story?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-35064071

The village quarantined itself in order to prevent the spread of the plague which had taken hold there, even though it was a death sentence for most inhabitants. I wonder if anyone would be so selfless now?

Well the UK gov seem to be taking their time thinking about it so it's not just the OP! Only on MN is everything so 'black and white'

This is one of those threads that separates those who travel from those who never leave the village. For some reason each group thinks they are somehow morally superior.

FWIW I travel and have lived in a few countries, with the full knowledge that I remain a citizen of my country. You can't just rescind that because it doesn't suit you. It means something. By all means deal with the practicalities but I really dislike the idea that citizenship is dependent on staying put.

I have certainly left the village

I don't think self quarantine will work anyway. I mean unless all the people coming back happen to live alone.

I think comparisons to the Black Death are perhaps just a little overwrought.

The understanding and treatment of disease has come on slightly since the 17th Century.

Hush, Cohle.

Tonight we're gonna panic like it's 1666.

I have certainly left the village

That wasn't really the point of the post.

@MrsTerryPratchett yeah I get that, and I don't feel that British citizens should be cut out. Of course people remain British.

However if you left the UK 15 years ago and never plan to return because you think it's shit (like my friend) then you can't be asking for a plane ride home just because there's an outbreak and you don't want to be stuck there

Of course there is going to be genuine concern for people on holiday or on a short work trip, but I'm not sure repatriation is the answer

Quarantining people at home with strict checks worked during swine flu. Random calls (day and night) meant they could check people were still at home as they should be.

However if you left the UK 15 years ago and never plan to return because you think it's shit (like my friend) then you can't be asking for a plane ride home just because there's an outbreak and you don't want to be stuck there

It's how the UK has behaved since forever. Good job otherwise we'd have failed to forcibly suppress most of the world for hundreds of years.

I mean there are people working for the British Council for example, spreading goodwill around for the UK abroad, who will likely only come home to die, if that.

But aren't a lot of people coming back Chinese residents who won't necessarily have a place to stay in the UK?

So they will either have to stay in hotel rooms or with friends or relatives who they might then infect?

They just announced that there are two cases at my local college (in Ohio). Not surprising; there is a HUGE population of Chinese students there, and the winter break just passed, so many of them probably traveled home. The report says they're mildly ill and are being quarantined.

The understanding and treatment of disease has come on slightly since the 17th Century. With relative currently in hospital I'm not entirely convinced. Some of the conversations I've had with HCP beggar belief, and I say that with one child a nurse, one child married to a doctor and I'm not anti NHS or medical people.

I don’t think we have effective treatment for a lot of viruses.

What just leave them with reduced services and even food? It's in lockdown, they need to be brought home. I am sure they will be quarantined .

Being “able to turn off your empathy because you’re a nurse” is the saddest thing I’ve read all year. You’re in the caring profession and supposed to put compassion and care at the heart of what you do. Try life as a mortician if that what you genuinely feel you have to do at work.

It wasn't me that said I'd turned my empathy off
And if you can deduce that I show no empathy to patients/clients from a MN post well done you 👏🏼👏🏼

little you’re missing the point. Turning his empathy off means he can leave the hospital and not take the job with him and cry all day.

I know someone who nursed her father and uncle through their last weeks of cancer and she said the same. It’s why I coped so badly with my dads cancer, I couldn’t turn the switch off when I left the hospice. It’s a good skill to have or surely those people would be leaving their jobs in droves due to breakdowns.

I did say clearly on/off switch so I thought it was clear he switches it on for the patient!

First suspected case in Birmingham

Note suspected - not confirmed.

And looks like we're finally bringing the Brits in Hubei home

However if you left the UK 15 years ago and never plan to return because you think it's shit (like my friend) then you can't be asking for a plane ride home just because there's an outbreak and you don't want to be stuck there
a) you don't seem to understand how 'citizenship' works.
b) and what about people who haven't 'left' the UK and are aboard? Who is going to decide? You?

All tests so far on the suspected case in Birmingham have come back negative, according to the news, as have the other brits that have been suspected of it so far (can’t remember how many previous have been tested, but it was quite a few).