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To want to write an honest review of this air BnB guest?

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drainednow · 27/01/2020 15:56

Time has now passed so I don't think I can but don't know what else to do

I Wanted to specify only women to stay in my property with me and was advised by Air BnB that would be discrimination against men

Ended up taking 2 bookings from men - one who booked under his wife's account and then announced it would be him - was fine but uncomfortable stay

Second was young bloke who when I exited my bathroom in morning had his bedroom door wide open (across from bathroom so direct line of sight - flat is 54 sq foot so tiny) and was naked on the bed wanking

His reaction to me closing the door abruptly told me he had intended to be seen (weird as fuck I'm 44 not hot and not interested - he was in his 20s)

Air BnB said defamation if I put it on his review (14 days passed now)

How can I protect myself without having to stop renting out my second bedroom to make ends meet but not accept men to stay as Air BnB won't permit discrimination?

OP posts:
Thelnebriati · 27/01/2020 19:51

I don't see how Air BnB are acting within the law. If you are a female LL and live in the property you can specify women only; its a permitted exception allowed by the Equality Act.
They are the ones discriminating against women who want to let out a room.

StealthPolarBear · 27/01/2020 20:41

You can't tell someone's gender on the doorstep or if they're masturbating. A big bushy beard doesn't stop someone being a woman and they may well have a lady penis.

Op in so sorry this happened. What a dirty little sod.

MintyMabel · 27/01/2020 20:41

was advised by Air BnB that would be discrimination against men

This is strange as it goes against their written terms. Unusual for their own customer service staff to advise you of something which is incorrect.

StealthPolarBear · 27/01/2020 20:42

Thelnebriati what about when someone we'd have all called a man in the nineties turns up and tells you she's a woman?

StealthPolarBear · 27/01/2020 20:43

These wankera are so stunning and brave for exposing themselves to the ops judgement

CodenameVillanelle · 27/01/2020 21:16

www.airbnb.co.uk/help/article/1807/can-i-choose-to-only-host-people-of-my-own-gender

I know this uses the bollocks word gender and explicitly allows self id but the vast majority of men DON'T identify as women so if you put female only you are more than likely only going to get female guests.

Also take instant book off. It's never hindered my bookings.

ittakes2 · 27/01/2020 21:25

Whenever I have booked an Airbnb I have been asked to explain who was going to be there and the purpose of our visit. The host was given a chance to not accept. Once I said we wanted to have trick or treaters on Halloween - host did not accept our booking.

lowlandLucky · 28/01/2020 11:02

Thymelord Not victim blaming just a sensible question.

BottleOfJameson · 28/01/2020 11:17

I wonder if this is a genuine post as it seems to be factually inaccurate in lots of ways. (e.g. discrimination against men). Obviously the best thing to do would be to evict the guest immediately and call the police. Then just leave the most negative review allowable by airBnB. They as a third party obviously can't actually determine whether or not this event happened and he would most likely deny it. (My friend stayed in an awful AirBnB which was unclean and unsafe and wrote a terrible review accordingly - it turned out the host and obviously preempted her bad review since she had complained to him at the time and made all kinds of accusations about her in return none of which were true).

MaryLennoxsScowl · 28/01/2020 11:18

Did you report him to Airbnb? Can you do that? Or did you write it in a review and they refused to post it? Can you take to social media and say that Airbnb refused to let you warn other hosts about a pervert who booked with you? Make it a PR problem for them.

AhhhHereItGoes · 28/01/2020 11:22

That's awful I'm so sorry OP Sad

I'd feel very threatened in that situation (likely the Incel or shock type guy).

Manually choose your clients. They make you uncomfortable? "Oh sorry Mr Smith, it seems I've accidentally got the dates wrong and it won't be available on the 18th!"

FrannyHy · 28/01/2020 18:14

To those of you who say get a lodger, bear in mind that they have rights. You cannot just throw them out.

I know someone who went to an airbnb and had a disagreement with the hosts. They told her to pack and leave the following morning and asked airbnb to refund her. (No details but their reasons for asking her to go were valid and airbnb backed them.) You can’t do that with a lodger.

I’m not suggesting I’d throw someone out for no reason, but if I had one I wouldn’t hesitate - I’d get a friend or two to help me if I needed to. Having said that, the vast majority of my guests have been lovely people and I have made new friends.

As I said before, insist on them uploading their ID to be verified by airbnb, insist on a recognisable photo on their profile, and don’t let them instant book. Have a conversation with them first.

Aridane · 28/01/2020 18:21

Lodgers have very few rights!!

FrannyHy · 28/01/2020 18:34

I’m not an expert on rules for lodgers, but I think you have to give them “reasonable notice” to leave. Perhaps someone with more knowledge of this could clarify.

As I said I’ve never had cause to throw an airbnb guest out. As they pay upfront via airbnb there’s no getting behind with the rent either. If they can’t pay they don’t stay on.

TildaKauskumholm · 28/01/2020 18:50

If guests have the right to see hosts pic before booking, then it seems single women should use a picture of them together with a male. If anyone asks, he is away but due home any time. Sad but it may prevent pervy bastards picking out line female hosts

TildaKauskumholm · 28/01/2020 18:51

Lone not line!

Wallywobbles · 28/01/2020 19:32

I've never used instant book because I feel like I'm being railroaded. Last people who tried to book were full capacity (12) plus a camper van for extras to sleep in.

Obviously I try not to cancel anyone or not accept where possible because I don't want to be delisted.

Aridane · 28/01/2020 19:53

Lodgers - you can get em out at end of fixed term or on notice by reference to frequency of pay- eg pay weekly, week’ price

mansviewpoint · 28/01/2020 20:27

So the guy having a tug, was completely a power trip thing for him. So reverse the power trip. Tell the world. If he had his door closed, or was making grunting sounds from his bedroom, then you shouldn't say it, but purposefully doing this, is un-acceptable. if it were a hotel room and he left his hotel room door open, then he would be thrown out.
he will do it time and time again, and he gets his kicks that way, going from place to place, making the ladies fearful.
I would say that you don't want to tar every man with the same brush but you as a strong woman need to teach that man and others that it is not acceptable or respectful to the home owner. If I was renting out a room and a girl did that then I would challenge them there and then. Asking them why they left the door open? If she was trying to get off on the thought of me or others walking past, then I'd tell them to leave. (If it was that she wanted to get it on with me, then I'd book her an appointment at SpecSavers).

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