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To want to write an honest review of this air BnB guest?

119 replies

drainednow · 27/01/2020 15:56

Time has now passed so I don't think I can but don't know what else to do

I Wanted to specify only women to stay in my property with me and was advised by Air BnB that would be discrimination against men

Ended up taking 2 bookings from men - one who booked under his wife's account and then announced it would be him - was fine but uncomfortable stay

Second was young bloke who when I exited my bathroom in morning had his bedroom door wide open (across from bathroom so direct line of sight - flat is 54 sq foot so tiny) and was naked on the bed wanking

His reaction to me closing the door abruptly told me he had intended to be seen (weird as fuck I'm 44 not hot and not interested - he was in his 20s)

Air BnB said defamation if I put it on his review (14 days passed now)

How can I protect myself without having to stop renting out my second bedroom to make ends meet but not accept men to stay as Air BnB won't permit discrimination?

OP posts:
Nickki78 · 27/01/2020 16:29

Like other have said, consider getting a female lodger. Bollocks to airbnb for dictating who you have in your home.
Lodger will give a steady income and more control.

StillWeRise · 27/01/2020 16:29

seems crazy that you can't leave a negative review
but I think with careful wording you may be able to warn others
I haven't used Air bnb much but when I did the reviews I got were positively gushing (undeservedly- we were just normally polite!) so I think a neutrally worded one would ring alarm bells
'while x did not transgress any of my stated house rules he clearly has different standards with regard to privacy and propriety'

BlooperReel · 27/01/2020 16:30

Surely its only defamation if the accusation is false? Air BnB are sounding like misogynisitic twats, as a female living alone why they hell can't you discriminate to only allow female guests?

ForalltheSaints · 27/01/2020 16:31

I am surprised at the Air BnB opinion. Would an opinion from the EHRC or even the local council be worth obtaining?

Agree about the police for the second man, also ask Air BnB whether he can be blocked from booking with them.

Itwasntme1 · 27/01/2020 16:32

I don’t think having strangers to stay in your one is ever totally safe.

Can you rent out your room long term rather than air bnb?

aNonnyMouse1511 · 27/01/2020 16:33

@Whynosnowyet Jesus h Christ. That is horrific.

katkit · 27/01/2020 16:34

I am so sorry. That is horrible. Police report. please. report it. Air BnB should be ashamed.

iswhois · 27/01/2020 16:34

It's only defamation if it isn't true. I would file with the police.

katy1213 · 27/01/2020 16:35

Do you have an address/contact details for the wanker - who I guess might still be living with his mum? Letter to his home addressed to Mrs Wanker explaining why you have complained to AirBnB might at least cause him some embarrassment.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 27/01/2020 16:35

Air BnB DO let you discriminate by gender, according to their own rules - see my earlier post where I linked to them.
Op has been misinformed by whoever she spoke to there.

Purpleartichoke · 27/01/2020 16:36

Bringing strangers into your home is dangerous. I’m amazed people do it.

I would get a long term lodger or find a cheaper place to live.

drainednow · 27/01/2020 16:36

Person who just posted with terse neutral review - that is what I should have done I was too furious to even do that because I just wanted to put what he had done but your coded way of writing might have given enough clue (I couldn't give him no stars so had to give 1 for all categories and write nothing) I wanted to stop him booking in with other lone female hosts

Wanker was on flight home same day (as booked - clearly saved it for last day ) - police not interested ! Can't pursue him abroad

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Straycatstrut · 27/01/2020 16:39

Uhh how disgusting. You should've reported there and then.

I think you'll continue to get targeted, especially if the ad states that a single female will be sharing with them.

I'd advertise just for women guests first and explain to Air BnB why. If they bitch about it (ridiculous) then advertise elsewhere for female lodger.

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 27/01/2020 16:39

Also I think it's fairly outrageous that a woman living on her own isn't allowed to discriminate about who she has in her home.

It certainly is. It just wastes everybody's time if you can't state it clearly - I'm sure most non-pervy men would rather strike it off their potentials list straightaway as 'not applicable' rather than book and find themselves turned away at the door or hesitantly tolerated by a frightened woman who doesn't want a strange man sharing her home.

Surely this is a valid exception, isn't it? Don't the majority of non-family/non-couple would-be house-sharers advertise that they want somebody of the same sex as themselves? You do get bigger mixed HMOs with two or more of each sex, but if it's just two people, I think most folk would be much more comfortable sharing with the same sex.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 27/01/2020 16:42

Advertising for women only is allowed. I posted a link to the Air BnB non discrimination rules above.

Wheresthebiffer2 · 27/01/2020 16:44

get a proper lodger instead. that way you have regular income, and get to choose who stays in your home.

Thisisworsethananticpated · 27/01/2020 16:45

Police matter

What a disgusting Wanker

And a post to their twitter and gram too

Ugh ugh ugh for you

Sorry 😐

Clymene · 27/01/2020 16:45

I would only rent to women or get a lodger instead. That guy didn't care whether you were 40 and hot or not. He only cared a pit the fact that you were a woman and would discover him.

Grim Angry

Clymene · 27/01/2020 16:45

And yes, report him. That's a sexual offence

Lordfrontpaw · 27/01/2020 16:45

Has he been banned from air B&B? Bugger the ‘you might hurt the feelz of the men’ - can they not now see exactly why a woman may request women only (although these days you can’t even police that).

Get a taser...

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 27/01/2020 16:45

The OP should be basing her decision on biological sex, not this nebulous idea of "gender identity".

Yep, it sounds like a good safeguard on the surface, but if anybody could legitimately turn up identifying as female - even if they have a biologically male body - it sounds like you're just expected to suck it up, however vulnerable it makes you feel, knowing what they could potentially be capable of.

PatellarTendonitis · 27/01/2020 16:46

Won't help if they allow you to book only 'women' because plenty of men will now say they are women and you are being discriminatory.

I'd get a female lodger instead.

AirB&B when you're renting out a spare room in your home is bloody dangerous.

Sadiee88 · 27/01/2020 16:46

Why not get a female room mate instead.
I don’t think there’s much you can do about the wanking man now....

drainednow · 27/01/2020 16:47

Don't want a permanent lodger from now on - am having cancer treatment diagnosed before Xmas and will need space to recuperate in between chemo plus need income to cover inability to work - air BnB was great - reached super host status after 30 or so bookings - have made some lovely contacts & friends otherwise - couples have stayed but I started to get lots of single male inauiries around same time (September?) and then realised on air BnB advice I was prevented from using insta book because I can't prevent single males booking on - it means I have much less opportunity to host than if I were male and affects my booking rate - ppl like to book instantly

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PineappleDanish · 27/01/2020 16:47

But the Airbnb link says you can't say "females only" . You can limit to those who express their gender as women.

Not the same thing.

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