To think everyine has forgotten about next Frìday?

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Brexit isn't it? Im a remainer and i feel ok about it...at least my hysteria has died down. What about the rest of you?

I don't know how this country will ever heal with the Government and the media we have. I can predict the headlines on Friday and Saturday and I bet the word Remoaner will be featured.

Sorry to repeat my earlier post.

I voted "Leave" because I want to reduce the size of the Government. In this case, a whole tier of Government has been removed (73 MEPs & support staff). I believe that to be a virtue in itself.

I am someone who knows why I voted "Brexit"; and I am very confident of my expectations being realised!

I'm one of those bloody foreigners who came to England. Admittedly that was in 1977.

If you met me you certainly wouldn't know. I've got a real 'BBC' accent.

The dialogue about us foreigners has become distinctly aggressive since the vote. I've had all sorts said to me. When I point out that I'm also foreign, I get lots of blusters and 'well of course we want people like you to stay'. Well thank goodness for that!

Despite the fact that immigrants contribute more to the economy than they take, we're still being scapegoated, instead of looking at the affects of austerity on services.

Anyway I've gone the whole hog and got my British passport which was a humiliating and painful process and certainly didn't make me feel welcome.

The irony is that I don't work (British dh earns ridiculous amounts of money, (don't use the NHS (have private inse too) and I certainly don't claim benefits. All the things we've been accused of, but which made it harder to prove I was living here for citizenship.

My kids and I have dual nationality and so I feel a bit smug. I also feel sorry for the poorest and most vulnerable in Britain as they will be the ones who will suffer most.
I am sad, I love England and consider it my home, I hope that it's not as bad as I fear it will be and that the country will heal.

So I won't be celebrating on Friday and will be lighting a candle instead.

Same folly. I wish there could be an “opt out” provision so those of us that didn’t want to leave could remain European. Thankfully my own dc have dual passports but my poor friends kids don’t and none of them voted leave

The dialogue about us foreigners has become distinctly aggressive since the vote. I've had all sorts said to me. When I point out that I'm also foreign, I get lots of blusters and 'well of course we want people like you to stay'. Well thank goodness for that!

I’ve experienced exactly this. I’m a non-EU white anglophone immigrant who’s been here 15 years.

People (including my in laws) fall over themselves to point out that they don’t mean immigrants like me when they are complaining about immigrants ruining everything.

Because making it clear that their anti-immigrant rants are actually racist makes it better, apparently.

Read on here that of course not all leave voters are racist. But pretty sure all racists voted leave.

I shall hide the thread now

Bet you don't.

I do not see the EU as Democratic. I don’t think the EU has been a force for good, and has actually impacted negatively on large parts of the EU demographic

Ah right. The vague, non-specific 'reasons' for fucking over the country and future generations.

Fear, insecurity, racism, selfishness, greed

Yep ^

Friday is a very, very sad day. Doubtless the right wing media will be rubbing my nose in it so I won’t be engaging with any news for a few days. I voted to join in 1972.

Not all leave voters are racist. But pretty sure all racists voted leave

Yes, this with bells one.

We are now a relatively small economy compared to the likes of the US and the EU. And China. We will soon realise how many cards we don't have when it comes to negotiating trade deals.

We will soon realise how many cards we don't have when it comes to negotiating trade deals

Yes. The ludicrous arrogance of believing that we'd be cherry-picking the best trades deals is laughable. And yet, Brexiteers believed it.

The other thing that I just can't shake is the knowledge that a majority of Brexit voters will have voted for the Tory party. So not only have they sent the country hurtling backwards, and shrunk the prospects of future generations, any vote for the Tory party is a declaration of not giving a fuck about the poorest and most vulnerable people in our society who are now at the mercy of the Tories.

Schools, hospitals, Worker's Rights. Jesus. No wonder I'm angry.

Quietly plodding on with our plans to leave the UK next year.
I know we’re lucky to have the option but there’s nothing to be done now.
Current gov indications on TA negotiations are concerning to say the least and I’m heartsick for those on whom the axe will fall the hardest.

I voted "Leave" because I want to reduce the size of the Government. In this case, a whole tier of Government has been removed (73 MEPs & support staff). I believe that to be a virtue in itself.

Joy, one of those. So you voted to: destroy all benefits (that previous generations had access to); but not of course pensions, until the current OAPs are gone and then they can vanish. You voted to destroy employment rights. You voted to destroy law and order, by destroying legal rights, access to law, and of course the mechanisms of maintaining law. You voted to destroy libraries and education through the state, thereby ensuring the spread of propaganda. You voted also to reduce the influence of public broadcasting and media, thereby again helping the spread of propaganda. You voted to allow private companies, preferably foreign ones, to strip our island of what natural resources we have left. You voted to stop all support for any local endeavours that might work against that. You voted for a world of individuals where everyone looks out for themselves, where communal organisation is frowned upon. And you think there’s going to be anything left of this country in 20 years to see this hoped for long term gain? And you still don’t see why the rest of us would still be fighting tooth and nail against all this if most of us hadn’t decided that you deserve what you’ve asked for?

I forgot to add the NHS, probably all emergency services, and the concept of social housing (the practice already having more or less gone), leaving us vulnerable to sickness, fires, preventative methods for those, and doomed to the increasing inequality of owners and renters.

Yes. The ludicrous arrogance of believing that we'd be cherry-picking the best trades deals is laughable. And yet, Brexiteers believed it.

You only have to glance at a globe or an atlas to see our new position. We are tiny and insignificant. We've given up a position of considerable power and influence in a large and well-respected union. We've been trading on that and our historical empire for a long time. We've been mislead by our over-inflated sense of self-mportance and chosen to go it alone. Our significance in world trade and politics will rapidly wane until our power and influence are more proportionate to our size and productivity.

It's OK though. The newpapers will keep telling us to blame all our ills on Johnny Foreigner so nobody will feel obliged to kick themselves as the disaster unfolds.

Yes. The ludicrous arrogance of believing that we'd be cherry-picking the best trades deals

Ah yes, the 'they need us more than we need them' brigade.

Haven't actually heard anyone say that for a while. Is it possible that perhaps it's beginning to sink into leavers brains what utter bollocks that little gem was, and is.

I think the EU was supposed to have collapsed by now (the domino effect) at the same time as building an army.

Can't wait. Will celebrate with a few drinks with my Husband. Every member of mine and Husband's family voted out so we are all very happy.

And how will life be better for you all?

I am intrigued as to what the tangible upsides are. Genuinely not seeing what they are happy to be informed

Wonder what Dave Cameron will be up to on Friday

I was so surprised Tories got such a majority in the GE. That was everyone’s opportunity to reverse the referendum result but it seems the people really did want to leave. So we just have to get on with it. It might be better in the long term

In an old spirit of public information provision you may like to be reminded that the Tory’s ‘amazing majority’ consisted of a 1.2% increase in voting percentage (or thereabouts, go look it up I can’t be arsed anymore). Labours collapse was a reduction of round about 8% or so (again from memory only) most of which went to the Lib Dem’s. The FPTP system did the rest of the damage, and yes it has always been unrepresentative like that. Blair was a big beneficiary.

One day perhaps Britain will value discussion, thought, knowledge and all that good stuff over a WWF wrestling show, but I think the latter will destroy us first.

@SleightOfMind, why are you heartsick for the one's on whom the axe will fall hardest as a result of brexit?

I'm not normally a vindictive person but in this case I will have no sympathy whatsoever for the Brexiteers who are going to be hardest hit by the disaster that is brexit because that is what they have voted for. To be worse off not just financially but wrt to their consumer and worker's rights and protections.

And more fool them if they didn't realise this.

I will however feel sorry for those of us who voted remain and will also be adversely affected by brexit.

Like a pp said I wish there was an opt out so the remainers could retain their EU passports and all the rights and protections conferred by EU membership. There should be separate shelves in supermarkets where we can continue to buy good quality groceries leaving the Brexiteers to the aisles full of unregulated US standard food.

I'm not normally a vindictive person but in this case I will have no sympathy whatsoever for the Brexiteers who are going to be hardest hit by the disaster that is brexit because that is what they have voted for. To be worse off not just financially but wrt to their consumer and worker's rights and protections

I'm struggling to keep my ethical compass in the right place as well, I really am. Those gloating about 'can't wait' and other mindless idiocy either STILL don't understand how badly people will be hurt by this, or just simply don't care.

The phrase 'turkeys voting for Christmas' was indeed made for Brexit.