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To ask what wrong with DD? She’s in pain down below.

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TrySleepingWithABrokenHeart · 15/01/2020 23:25

For several nights now, DD (age 3) has been waking numerous times a night. She’s either asking for lip balm for lips that she says are sore or asking for a drink, or something else along those lines.

DD wipes herself now when she goes to the toilet and sometimes occasionally gets pain down below which I assume is from not wiping properly. I have friends who experience the same with their girls. If this happens, I’ll pop some bepanthen on her which seems to sort it out.

Anyway, one of the many things DD has been asking for in the night has been for some cream on down below.

DH and I are both getting really exhausted by the constant wake ups and tonight, DH calmly explained to her that if it didn’t look red, he wouldn’t be putting any cream on. DD got very distressed and was thrashing around as if in severe pain. I went in and managed to calm her down. I had a chat to her and explained she wasn’t going to get in any trouble but I needed to know if she was really in pain or if she wasn’t in pain but just wanted some cream on. She said she didn’t know and to be fair to her, her comprehension on somethings can be a challenge for her.

I calmed her enough that she went back to bed but I continued to watch her on the baby monitor. She had her eyes closed and periodically she would start crying and thrashing around like she did earlier with us in the room. She is clearly absolutely exhausted.

I went back through to her and she said it was hurting so I said we would try the cream and see. She has since fallen asleep and seems to be settled (for now).

Does anyone have any ideas on what’s going on? My gut feeling before has been that she was just wanting our attention but now I’m not so sure.

Seeing her in pain is really upsetting.

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Kwkwjwkek · 15/01/2020 23:42

*gp

DrinkSangriaInThePark · 15/01/2020 23:42

Please treat her with Ovex, as a precaution. Nearly all children pick up worms at a young age, from other kids. That should sort it within one night if it is worms. If that doesn't work then investigate other causes but it really does sound like textbook thread worms. They can irritate the vulva at night. But they are agony, so please don't let her suffer on without treatment!

morrisseysquif · 15/01/2020 23:43

Get a torch and LOOK! Then layer on sudocrem thickly then the blighters can't move much as the itch is from the secretions. Vaseline if no sudocrem.

Northernsoullover · 15/01/2020 23:44

Don't bother the GP yet. Ovex. As has been said. First thing. IF it continues then go to the GP. My stepdaughter also had the same symptoms and as we were on holiday I got the Spanish equivalent and they went. The Spanish word for threadworms is lombrices if I remember correctly

Excited101 · 15/01/2020 23:46

It’ll either be worms or a UTI, you could put money on it! And bepanthem won’t cure either of them.

gamerchick · 15/01/2020 23:47

When she wakes up next, wash her bottom as it's the glue that they use that causes the itching. Get all of that off. Then a thick layer of something so they can't lay anymore this evening, you should get some peace. Bath her in the morning as soon as she gets up.

lisag1969 · 15/01/2020 23:49

Bless her I'd say worms or water infection too. Most likely worms. X

VenusTiger · 16/01/2020 00:01

If it's ONLY at night OP, then I'd guarantee it's worms.

SilverPinkDaisies · 16/01/2020 00:02

I wouldn’t suspect worms myself, I think a urine infection.

But Sudocrem, would be better than bepanthen, as the latter is just a barrier cream, at least sudocrem has anti bacterial benefit too.

However, take the poor child to the doctors ASAP.

I can’t imagine why you didn’t give her calpol and some cream straight away. And a drink of water in case it is an infection.

Didkdt · 16/01/2020 00:04

Does she have tummy ache in the day?
Why would you think she's faking it. She's 3 and asleep when this happens

sadeyedladyofthelowlandsea · 16/01/2020 00:07

Another vote for worms. Treat the entire household, wash everything (towels, bedding, pyjamas etc.) and slather on Sudocreme or similar before bedtime. DD had them twice, and my best memory of her toddlerhood was not the night I had to shine a torch on her bum to check if the worms were coming out. They were.

Dita73 · 16/01/2020 00:09

Sudocrem. This happened often when my girls were small. Hope she soon feels better

JoanieCash · 16/01/2020 00:13

Here’s a link for vulvovaginitis in kids (thread worm being a cause). Some useful links there too www.rch.org.au/kidsinfo/fact_sheets/Vulvovaginitis/

MyDcAreMarvel · 16/01/2020 00:14

Worms, put a large blob of Vaseline round the opening of her anus to stop them migrating to her vulva. My dd has had them it’s awful. Ovex tomorrow even if it makes her late for school as it takes a while to work.

runninguphills · 16/01/2020 00:18

Definately sounds like worms. Dd2 had this when she was in nursery age 3. Apparently playdoh is renound for carrying threadworms eggs after being mashed continuously by little hands for weeks on end. The eggs tend to colles under fingernails and playdoh is really good at extracting them.

Her symptoms were exactly as your daughter described. Infact, my daughter also passed them to me as she was a really clingy child and her hands were constantly in my face! Also - we had shared towels.

It was incredibly uncomfortable in the night , I can't go into too much detail as it still gives me nightmares...

Deffo get Ovex, wash every piece of bedding in the house, also all towels. Don't keep tooth brushes exposed in the bathroom.

You may get some tonight in a 24hr supermarket pharmacy so you can administer to her (and the rest of the family) first thing in the morning.

obsessively wash hands. A quick swill after the loo won't do. It has to be a nurses hand wash esp in fingernails. Also, use paper towel rather than shared handtowel until the problem has resolved.

Years later - I still can't bear seeing children playing with old playdoh in toddler groups etc

TinklyLittleLaugh · 16/01/2020 00:28

Worms seemed to be at epidemic levels at DS2’s naice playschool and reception. I’d no sooner worm him than he’d get another lot. What worked for us in the end was a shower first thing ever morning to wash off any eggs laid the night before so that we never let a cycle get going.

DishingOutDone · 16/01/2020 00:28

its probably worms but my DDs always suffered terribly with UTIs etc and worms, if they were like this at night I'd put them in the shower we had a little seat in there and they'd sit in it with the water going over their genitals to soothe them, I'd encourage them wee in there too for relief.

Get your GP to dip a urine sample tomorrow and also give Ovex just in case. They reckon UTIs and similar in little girls is very common, it certainly was in my girls and its horrible to see. Hope she is better soon OP.

Rtmhwales · 16/01/2020 00:39

The OP doesn't necessarily think her child is making up being in pain... she may just be questioning it because little kids often get up in the night for 400 small non issues (needing water when they aren't actually thirsty etc etc). My DN often screams like he's dying from blood loss when there's a red mark (and no cut) and a bandaid magically heals him so all OP was questioning is if it's exhaustion etc waking her DD and the cream is acting as a placebo. Now she's accepted it's potentially worms, I don't know why people are judging her for wondering.

ViaSacra · 16/01/2020 00:51

GP here. If a child was brought in to me with these symptoms, my first thought would be threadworms - I wouldn't take any further action until the child had been treated with Ovex and the problem had persisted.

We work by process of exclusion much of the time. If it isn't threadworms, you'll get further with the GP, and more quickly, if you can say you've already tried Ovex.

ViaSacra · 16/01/2020 00:54

(I would do a urine dip in the appointment, to rule out a UTI - does your dd complain of this pain while urinating? and is her urine at all smelly or cloudy at the moment?)

areallady · 16/01/2020 01:05

My dd has this regularly when she was 7/8/9 - nothing apparent on looking- we visited the gp - she was tested for everything -

Our brilliant gp gave us a drowsy liquid anti histamine to break the cycle - which it did

3 years on we still have the occasional night but some soothing flannels and sudocream now work. I still have some soothing antihistamine “juice”- but haven’t needed it

My gp said it was very common in girls and recommended sleeping with nothing on.

Hope she is better soon

managedmis · 16/01/2020 01:15

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TrySleepingWithABrokenHeart · 16/01/2020 06:34

Thanks so much for all the advice. She went back to sleep after my last post and luckily stayed asleep.

I’ll definitely get some ovex today and treat us all. Hopefully that’ll do the trick. Otherwise, I’ll take her to the GP

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TrySleepingWithABrokenHeart · 16/01/2020 06:35

*Reported.

This exact same thread has been on here almost every fucking night*

And no, I’m not a troll. I’ve never posted about this issue before in my life.

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Fightingmycorner2019 · 16/01/2020 06:37

Another possible vote for worms

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