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To not let DSS move back home

117 replies

Sweetpeach3 · 15/01/2020 19:18

Long time poster please don't want any shitty comments just some advice

Basically DSS moved in with me when I met his dad - 7 years ago
Last year he got his own flat (soon as he turned 18) and moved out, due to circumstances he lost his job and ended up on benefits ( his rent went into arrears until it was sorted) he started back work an got laid beginning of the NY as it was only a Christmas position an they havnt any places now an now he isn't allowed to claim benefits for some reason we cannot work out so he's no source of income.

The flat is through the local council and as far as I'm aware of if he's in arrears over 500 they claim it straight from benefits but they clearly can't do this so he's going to be evicted or am I wrong ? He's nearly 1500 in arrears (don't have a fucking clue how) we personally think he's been spending the rent money when he's been paid on clothes an going out etc as we've had to pay his gas an electric a few times an buy him food.... isn't ideal at all and I'm pissed off with it as he thinks everything is for free an worn catch up with him but it has an he is going to loose the flat in the next month or so if he hasn't already (he won't speak to us since we found all this out Friday)

He has nothin to do with his mum unless it suits her (she's got 7 kids in care she's another bloody story) but it's always been me an his dad, iv got 2 toddlers and a 2 weeks old baby plus 3 other SC to think of

His dad suggested he moves back home but this means he shares a room with my 3YO on the top floor, he stayed over Christmas an it was hard work. He was up and down all night like a yo-yo so Ds was up aswel, he just lounges around when he has the chance an then we've no personal or private space anymore nor does he an he will want his new girlfriend around all the time as well as his DD who I'm then left to sort after and feed....

I clearly said I wasn't happy at all of the idea as it's me left with him all day an the extra laundry and picking up after an the rest of it. His dad then suggested he moves into my house until we can sort it an he keep an eye on him
it's around the corner from Dps house. Mine is only rented and tbh their isn't much he could ruin unlike the house we live in
(mine is private rented an I paid a year upfront when me an DP was havin a bad time, I didn't want the kids around it but we've sorted things but theirs still rent left so iv got it for 3 months ish so at the end of my tenancy he has the option to keep renting himself if he sorted himself out) it's fully furnished with everything their like sky and the bills paid etc so it is an option

I just feel like why the fuck are we helping him out again when he just cuts us off willy nilly, I don't want him here but I don't want him take the piss at my house an ruin it then I'm left in the shit ?
When these things happen his mum suddenly comes in the scene trying to act the hero an he craves his mums attention so I personally think let his mum sort it for once. She's got no kids to look after an she's never done anythin for him so help him now? Then he will see how much we do for him and MAYBE be greatful for what he's got an had

I duno I feel my hormones aren't great atm and I feel a total bitch for feelin this way towards him but he's out us through a lot and I mean a lot of shit, I just cba with the stress of him anymore? AIBU?

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user7522689 · 15/01/2020 20:15

Me me me.

You show no comprehension of what he's been through and your role in it.

I have read your posts. Have you? You're contradicting yourself all over the place.

as he has a social worker due to his mum and her effect on him

He's never known his mum to be totally effected

chocorabbit · 15/01/2020 20:16

TBH nobody is responsible for him apart from his parents. NOBODY is obliged to step in but the OP did, however it seems she didn't do enough according to some. Although she could have done FA.

OP, ingore the nasty comments.

MyNewBearTotoro · 15/01/2020 20:18

Could he go and stay with his Nana again?

HerkyBaby · 15/01/2020 20:21

Not all of the arrears will need to be cleared in order for him to stay in council accommodation. Has he actually been served an eviction notice yet? I suspect not. Get to the bottom of why he is not receiving benefits as that doesn’t ring true either. I wouldn’t have him back as you will be indicating that he had alternative accommodation. Has anyone sat your SS down and explained how to budget properly and how spending needs to be prioritised. Due to his age he will be classified as a vulnerable adult . Could get in touch with social services.

Sweetpeach3 · 15/01/2020 20:21

@MyNewBearTotoro no as he robbed her and his uncle blind when he stayed one weekend...

@chocorabbit thank you
Hard to not take notice. Iv genuinely tried my best

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Oldishusernewname · 15/01/2020 20:21

He had a baby at 16 with a 14 year old? Am I reading this correctly?

Sweetpeach3 · 15/01/2020 20:23

@HerkyBaby we're trying but now he's ignoring us as I think it's down to him not going to appointments and yes I sat down with him an wrote everything down on paper when he got the flat an joe to budget and I was helping him at first to pay bills an keep it on track until he went MIA again,,, also the benefits people did it with him when he signed up to the flat. I'm at my Whitt's end I duno what to do anymore to help x

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Sweetpeach3 · 15/01/2020 20:23

@Oldishusernewname no no your reading wrong

The girl is the same age as him

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Cordial11 · 15/01/2020 20:24

OP - you have clearly done a-lot for your DSS. Don’t let the harsh commenters tell you otherwise. AIBU area can be brutal.

Sweetpeach3 · 15/01/2020 20:27

@Cordial11 I did ask for it posting on Mn lol I just clearly touched a nerve, must be close to home!

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Oldishusernewname · 15/01/2020 20:28

Ah sorry OP, I assumed his just turned 16 year old girlfriend was the mother of his child, my mistake!

I don't envy you, it all sounds very chaotic and terribly sad. I hope he manages to turn things around one way or another, he is heartbreakingly young to be in this situation. I wouldn't be keen on him sharing a room with your 3 year old either, it's just not practical or fair on any of you

CarrotVan · 15/01/2020 20:30

This is very complicated! Have I got this right?

  • you’re mid 20s with 3 small kids with your partner with whom you’ve had enough issues to end up in separate houses
  • your partner has (several?) other kids with previous partner/s
  • your partner has a son who is now 18, living independently, brought up by a grandparent, and who has a 2 yo child with a girl who has just turned 16 so was 13-14 when she got pregnant
  • this 18 yo has a sketchy employment history, presumably few or no qualifications?
  • he’s about to evicted due to mismanaging his minimal finances
  • he has no support from his mother who presumably has huge issues of her own

Bloody hell! That poor fucked up boy, his poor fucked up ‘girlfriend’, their poor fucked up kid and poor you stuck in the midst of all that dysfunction

Nanny0gg · 15/01/2020 20:33

Where the hell is his father in all this?

How many siblings has this kid got?

CarrotVan · 15/01/2020 20:33

So he has a kid with one girl and is now with another? Presumably his relationship models are shite...

His Dad needs to step up a lot and quickly.

TorkTorkBam · 15/01/2020 20:35

His life sounds like it has been hard. That's a shame. You can't change it.

He is making his own life worse now by not working, not budgeting, not using contraception. Let him learn the hard way. You do him no favours by bailing him out of his mistakes. Bailing him out will not help him for long and will hurt you and the children.

Say no.

carly2803 · 15/01/2020 20:38

he needs help and support yes, but he also needs to get a fricking job!

time for a reality check to him, i would not let him in the room of a 3 year old, what happens if he sneaks his GF in?

Neither would i let him have a fully paid up house!! easy route, at the end of the 3 months, he will have no job and end up in the same boat hes in now!

he needs to stand on his own 2 feet

BottleOfJameson · 15/01/2020 20:39

Tricky - he sounds irresponsible but he's only 18 -he's not fully cooked yet. I would be tempted to have him back were it not for your younger children. I would continue to help him but in a way that will lead to him actually taking responsibility. He needs to pull his weight will his dad actually ensure that happens?

T0tallyFuckedUpFamily · 15/01/2020 20:39

What age is your partner, OP, because I have an awful feeling you’re just another woman he has used for his own devices.

PlanDeRaccordement · 15/01/2020 20:40

I second the idea that you and your children go live in your house. Because it sounds very crowded with DSS slouching around.

Honestly, the house you are in is your DSS and his dad’s home. I would not interfere and leave the decision up to your DSS dad as to how long he can stay.

It will give his dad, your partner, a reason to not avoid the issue and get DSS life back on track. I know he’s 18 and technically an adult but he’s had a rough start in life despite all the help you’ve given him.

Sweetpeach3 · 15/01/2020 20:41

Thank you all

I don't want to see him suffer but we've don't more then any other parent would in my eyes

I did his bloody cv to help him get a job
I got him one with my brother he just isn't interested as he thinks it'll all be handed on a plate an it isn't going to be

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ShawshanksRedemption · 15/01/2020 20:41

OP, where is his dad in all this? It seems you are doing all the work here...

Your partner needs to support his son, not by fixing his son's problems for him, but by helping his son fix his problems himself. Your DSS will otherwise never learn from an adult how to do things. He will just learn from crashing and burning instead. In a nutshell, his dad needs to parent his son.

(Ps I think you've done marvellously being there for him, but it's not your job to parent an 18yr old at age 24 yourself, with your own 3 kids to parent as well.)

PatriciaHolm · 15/01/2020 20:43

Unfortunately it would appear that every adult relationship he's had modelled to him so far is terrible. His Dad has 7 ? kids by 4? women, his mum doesn't want him, you and his dad have been up and down, so much so that 3 months ago you left and pressed charges against his abusive father - and now you have taken him back.

He needs a whole load of therapy I would imagine. He has no idea how to be a functional adult as he doesn't see any.

Sweetpeach3 · 15/01/2020 20:43

@BottleOfJameson well he text me last summer asking could he come home. I said yes an we got a new bed etc then he cut us off for 2 months ... it's me who he askes. He hasnt actually asked to come home just dp suggested it

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CharlotteCollinsneeLucas · 15/01/2020 20:43

You're absolutely right not to let him back home. Which is entirely the opposite of what I was expecting to say when I clicked on the thread! But he needs to experience being an adult and feel the consequences of his decisions. The best message he could hear would be "we love you and we trust you to sort this out yourself." He'll hate it because he wants to be bailed out whenever he needs it, but that's no good to him in the long run.

itsgoodtobehome · 15/01/2020 20:44

Blimey. Has this family ever heard of contraception? I can’t even figure out how many kids are involved in this sorry mess.

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