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Opting out of organ donation

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ringme · 10/01/2020 16:38

So the law has changed and this spring the NHS will consider you to be an organ donor automatically if you don’t opt out. I haven’t had a chance to really consider this all yet, WIBU to opt out at this stage until I have time to think about it or is that a selfish move given that 408 people died last year waiting for a donor?

What will you be doing?

www.organdonation.nhs.uk/helping-you-to-decide/about-organ-donation/faq/what-is-the-opt-out-system

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aNonnyMouse1511 · 10/01/2020 18:28

I have been an organ donor as long as I can remember. The likelihood of ever being able to be one is very slim. You have to die in a certain way in hospital. But quite frankly anything I can do to save someone else’s life, I will do.

I am also a blood donor and registered as a bone marrow donor too.

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 10/01/2020 18:28

Are you going to send an angry Tweet from the 'other side'

Hell Yes I will !
If anyone accepts my (well maintained) organs then abuses them, I will haunt them. Won't even have Derek Acorah to send a message now .

formerbabe · 10/01/2020 18:29

It’s not presumed consent, by not opting out you have actively consented

I think you need to look up the word 'actively'

jakeyboy1 · 10/01/2020 18:29

I don't quite understand it. You haven't opted out but your family are still consulted - so can they say no?

Purpleartichoke · 10/01/2020 18:29

My husband is alive because of an organ donor. My daughter exists because of an organ donor.

I am an organ donor and I strongly encourage everyone to consider the legacy they can create with one choice.

eminencegrise · 10/01/2020 18:30

I have a serious problem with presumed consent in any setting, tbh.

BonnesVacances · 10/01/2020 18:32

I've recently applied for a provisional driving licence for DD(18) and it asked if she wanted to go on the donor register. I asked her what she wanted to do and she was surprised it was even a question and of course she wanted to go on it.

I don't suppose it would be an easy decision at all if she died, but I think it would help enormously at the time knowing that she had consented to it. I guess the problem with the automatic opt in is that many people will now think the conversation doesn't need to be had and relatives won't be sure if they're acting on their own wishes and not the dead person's.

SunshineCake · 10/01/2020 18:32

As it stands now families can veto the deceased persons wishes. Makes me sad and think what's the point in having a card and telling your family if they won't honour what you want.

PanamaPattie · 10/01/2020 18:33

I'm opting out. I wouldn't trust the NHS not to cut off my life support to harvest my organs.

ScarlettBlaize · 10/01/2020 18:33

@formerbabe Medical ethics is not pathetic

Your 'arguments' (actually just a series of lame insults thrown at anyone who calls out your inconsistency and selfishness) are nothing to do with medical ethics.

You are throwing your toys out of the pram. But are you? Or are you actually going to keep your toys, but pretend to throw them out of the pram, because someone presumed you were throwing them? Aaaaah. Aren't you clever?

Or are you, in fact, making a series of mutually contradictory claims about whether or not you will be donating your organs, based on some sort of petulant, half-baked misconceptions, and making meaningless smart-arse remarks to anyone who disagrees with you?

It's a quandary.

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 10/01/2020 18:34

My DBro donated bone marrow . The procedure itself wasn't as invasive as he thought but there's a lot of tests prior to harvesting , injections , he had to travel. Took a few days to recuperate .

And apparently some donors don't turn up (after agreeing )

Someone is hopefully alive because of DBro.

ScarlettBlaize · 10/01/2020 18:34

@PanamaPattie I'm opting out. I wouldn't trust the NHS not to cut off my life support to harvest my organs.

LOL

So you think that 'the NHS' (by which you mean specific individuals working as doctors and nurses) are so unethical that they would murder you for your organs - but ONLY IF you haven't ticked a box?

On a thread full of ridiculous posts, that really takes all possible biscuits.

DifficultPifcultLemonDifficult · 10/01/2020 18:35

The point is that when one person isdead, they don't have any needs. Or choices. Or wants.

So why do people have wills then?

chugmonkey · 10/01/2020 18:36

Thank you MGC31, there certainly has been some utter nonsense posted in this discussion.

Besides, what is the 'you're not giving my womb to a transgender person' about? Should I presume the Daily Mail has already penned some poisonous idiocy about this topic?

PanamaPattie · 10/01/2020 18:36

😉

WorraLiberty · 10/01/2020 18:36

PanamaPattie.....

Common myths about organ donation
Find out the truth!
Will doctors do their best to save my life?
Healthcare professionals have a duty of care to save your life first.

If, despite their best efforts, death is inevitable, organ and tissue donation will be considered as end of life care discussions start with your family, friends and next of kin.

Only when end of life care planning is started is the NHS Organ Donor Register accessed by healthcare professionals and the possibility of organ donation discussed with the patient’s family.

lowlandLucky · 10/01/2020 18:37

They wont want any of me. They can have everything from my Husband but they are not having his eyes

Bugsy73 · 10/01/2020 18:38

I would absolutely be happy for all my organs to be donated, but having been involved in the process as a professional, I completely understand why families that are put into this situation don't want to consent to it. It's not that straightforward. I hugely admire those relatives that do go through with it, but I do think it should be up to them, and whatever makes the death of their loved one easier to bear should be the priority.

CelebrityDave · 10/01/2020 18:38

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eaglejulesk · 10/01/2020 18:38

Wow - I'm not in the UK, but I hope they bring in that system here. Too many people don't make their wishes known and the opportunity is lost. Why wouldn't anyone want their organs put to good use for someone else - selfish not to, they are no use to you.

MGC31 · 10/01/2020 18:38

The level of ignorance and sheer stupidity on this thread is astounding.

There’s a bloody website with all the factual information there, readily available. EDUCATE YOURSELVES.

www.organdonation.nhs.uk/

lottiedelavega · 10/01/2020 18:39

Your body can either be used to help someone live , or you can let it rot. No brainier!

formerbabe · 10/01/2020 18:39

@ScarlettBlaize

I can opt out for any reason I want or no reason.

Do you think opting out should not be allowed?

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 10/01/2020 18:40

low they only take the lens don't they?
I scored eyes out of my original card but when I renewed it , I found out it was only the lens so my actual eyes wouldn't be removed .
(Eyesight is dodgy but my lenses are clear)

BonnyConnie · 10/01/2020 18:41

I have always been opted in. But I don’t think this system is correct. Obviously the dead don’t need anything but organ donation can be very traumatic for families. The state already presumes to take personal items, now it’s body parts too. Charming.

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