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Am I right to be annoyed by this? (Cultural appropriation?)

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TheincredibleBookEatingManchot · 08/01/2020 17:46

Or maybe I don't have the right to be annoyed?

A couple I know who are white British have named their dog a Sanskrit word, which is used in Hinduism and Buddhism. Also the woman wore a bindi at their wedding. Maybe it's just because I don't like this couple anyway so anything they do annoys me but I feel weirdly personally annoyed and kind of bitter about it.

I am ethnically half Indian but culturally completely white British and my Indian family were all Christians (and now atheists) so I have no claim on anything Indian/Hindu/Buddhist; it's not my culture they're appropriating.

But still I kind of feel like if I named my pet a word from an Indian language or started wearing bindis then my Britishness, my belonging in this country would be called into question, but this couple, with their pale skin and light hair are secure in their Britishness, no one's going to start questioning their identity or tell them to go "back" to India, so they get to use things from Indian culture to make themselves look interesting and exotic.

And I don't. But I don't want to. So am I unreasonable to be annoyed at them?

I don't think I've expressed myself very well but not really sure how to make myself clear.

Quite possibly I am unreasonable and this has nothing to do with me.

OP posts:
Retroflex · 08/01/2020 18:04

@forkfun "I want to live in a society where people can choose names, clothes, jewellery etc. freely, without repercussions like being told "to go home"." THIS 🙌👏

(Another Scot here, clearly we're more tolerant and don't mind sharing our culture)

StillWeRise · 08/01/2020 18:04

YANBU, that would grate with me too and I'm white british, christian upbringing. Re the dog's name though, what does the name actually mean? If it has a specific religious meaning or is the name of a god, that's not on, but if it means something like 'happy' or 'black' (if the dog was black!) I might excuse it.
I'm guessing they are guilty on other fronts also though. Do they have a statue of Buddha in the garden?

GiveHerHellFromUs · 08/01/2020 18:05

How do you know she's not Hindi?

Why do you get to decide what they name their dog?
My ILs dogs name is Korean and they're not Korean. They just like the name.

You've admitted you don't like them. You're just looking for something to be offended by.

paranoidmum2 · 08/01/2020 18:05

Scottish is not a religion.

Lifeisabeach09 · 08/01/2020 18:05

You are a bit.
I'm not sure why it would bother you as you don't identify with your Indian heritage (regardless of religion) and I don't feel you should resent a non Indian non-hindu for wearing a bindi, just because you would get a reaction if you were to do so.
My paternal family are Arab Muslims. I don't fully follow the religion or culture but I don't have a problem with white (non-Muslim) Brits adopting these if they wished, providing they were not being disrespectful, mocking or racist.
We live in a global world--is it really so wrong to adopt aspects of another culture that we like and respect?

Copperleaves · 08/01/2020 18:05

I think you are angry at the wrong people OP.

paranoidmum2 · 08/01/2020 18:05

How do you know she's not Hindi?

Because she’s not a language?

GiveHerHellFromUs · 08/01/2020 18:06

Scottish is not a religion

Neither is Indian.

GiveHerHellFromUs · 08/01/2020 18:06

@paranoidmum2 oh I'm sorry for my autocorrect Hmm

Tombliwho · 08/01/2020 18:07

Cultural appropriation doesn't exist because loads of white people say it doesn't and it isn't an issue so you must be being unreasonable OP.

ImGoingToBangYourHeadsTogether · 08/01/2020 18:07

Suddenly no one is allowed to take up influences and inspiration from different cultures any more in MN world. Lovely.

bsc · 08/01/2020 18:07

Is it an Indian breed of dog?

paranoidmum2 · 08/01/2020 18:08

Neither is Indian.

But Hinduism and Buddhism are. Sanskrit is a holy language.

bsc · 08/01/2020 18:08

...and this from an OP with a French name??

AdobeWanKenobi · 08/01/2020 18:08

My Scottish dog has an Irish name. He seems ok with this though could explain why he ignores it half the time.

GiveHerHellFromUs · 08/01/2020 18:09

@paranoidmum2 but the issue isn't really the use of the language. OPs question whether it's cultural appropriation.

Retroflex · 08/01/2020 18:10

@paranoidmum "Scottish is not a religion." I never said it was, we are discussing cultural appropriation, and Scotland certainly has its own culture Hmm

paranoidmum2 · 08/01/2020 18:10

Use of language is an issue for the OP. She says:

A couple I know who are white British have named their dog a Sanskrit word, which is used in Hinduism and Buddhism. Also the woman wore a bindi at their wedding. Maybe it's just because I don't like this couple anyway so anything they do annoys me but I feel weirdly personally annoyed and kind of bitter about it.

confusedandemployed · 08/01/2020 18:10

I'm afraid I really can't get aerated about cultural appropriation. Like a PP said, it's just another bandwagon for people to jump on and decide they're offended by.

Just live and let live FFS.

VirtualHamster · 08/01/2020 18:11

@GracefulHippo

I am Danish and was recently asked if I felt that everyone using the word “hygge” and baking cinnamon rolls made me upset as it was cultural appropriation

My Danish OH gets very annoyed at the random use of ø and å in business/brand names that have no Danish/Scandinavian connection, where they've just replaced an o with ø or an a with å and given no consideration that these are entirely different letters with different pronunciations, they just like the way they look.

WorraLiberty · 08/01/2020 18:11

...and this from an OP with a French name??

bsc you beat me to it Grin Grin

GiveHerHellFromUs · 08/01/2020 18:11

@paranoidmum2 just wondering if you read the thread title and OP? She's very clear that her issue is the culture thing. She just mentioned the language as part of that.

bsc · 08/01/2020 18:12

@PlanDeRaccordement My DH has also been told to "fuck off back to his own country" (also France) ...but it turns out they thought he was an asylum seeker Hmm

AlternativePerspective · 08/01/2020 18:13

It does make me cringe when people give their children a name from a different culture/language because “it means x/y and we thought it was cool.” I think that they do it to make themselves look oh so accepting and embracing and understanding of others, it’s not necessarily offensive but people might want to consider what a word actually means in another language vs the fact they think it sounds nice.

Case in point. I grew up in Africa. And in Africa it is very common for people to give their children names which are English words. They absolutely don’t do it to be offensive, it just sounds right to them.

As such a family member worked with a man called “poison” whose brother’s name was “wireless.” Grin These are the names they were given and to them they’re nice names, but those who know what those words actually mean would most likely find them amusing.

If you give your children a name which relates to religion then I think that you should consider that those who practice that religion may not find it as lovely as you do, because to them it means something different than it does to you.

Think naming a dog is different though.

GreytExpectations · 08/01/2020 18:13

YABU. Cultural appropriation is just a new thing for people to get offended by.

This is utter bullshit. Cultural appropriation is a real thing and if you ever had to experience the negatives of it then you wouldn't say that.