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The tone of the coverage of the Reynhard Sinaga case. *Title edited by MNHQ*

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Dogsaresomucheasier · 06/01/2020 22:13

Just watching tonight’s news. I do not wish to minimise the trauma suffered by the victims of Reynhard Sinaga, but I’m really struggling with the reporting of the case; even from female journalists. It seems so full of empathy and gravitas, when so many female victims go unheard.

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LoungeLizardLhama · 06/01/2020 23:18

Sickening @AutumnRose and all too believable. That poor woman Natalie Connolly who ended up dead at the bottom of the stairs with 40+ injuries and covered in bleach, accidentally died following ‘rough sex gone wrong’ and he only ended up with 3 years 8 months for manslaughter. If he’d slaughtered an actual man he’d have got way longer than that. It’s the double standards that are so disappointing in this case. Women have been getting drugged for decades and governments have never felt the need to ‘look into it’ before.

scousadelic · 06/01/2020 23:18

Surely the difference here is that it is one rapist and many victims.

I am sure that if police had a woman reporting rape and, in investigating that claim, found video evidence of lots of other attacks by the same rapist, they would pursue that with the same vigour

TimeAfterTimeAfter · 06/01/2020 23:19

Rotherham.

LoungeLizardLhama · 06/01/2020 23:20

Maybe scousadelic but do you think the rapist would then get 30 years? John worboys didn't did he?

AutumnRose1 · 06/01/2020 23:20

scousadelic yes of course
As they did with John Warboys
Who still has a ludicrously short sentence. If he’d raped men, I think the first parole application would not have been made. Just my opinion.

jellycatspyjamas · 06/01/2020 23:21

And GHB has been mentioned a lot it was more the fact it has been linked to deaths which is why they thinking of changing the classification.

Priti Patel was very clear in linking the review to this case, people have been assaulted, raped and have died for decades using this drug - the timing of the review is wholly in response to this case.

MadeForThis · 06/01/2020 23:22

No victim blaming has been reported as the rapist videoed the rapes himself. The men involved were not aware they had been raped. They were informed by the police when they were able to trace their identity through the phones and other things he stole from the men.

rudolfsquiffy · 06/01/2020 23:22

I do think that if it were woman, the fact they were drunk when they were picked up would have been made more of an issue.

When women are raped after going out drinking, they are made to believe it is partly their fault

Grumpydad1540 · 06/01/2020 23:22

Haven’t read your thread...pretty clear from your title. Men deserve it, women don’t. You horrible horrible person and shame on anyone who agrees

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KenDodd · 06/01/2020 23:25

With regard to the men who came round but didn't report the rape, I wouldn't have either. I have so little confidence in the legal system on this, what's the point of reporting? Just look at the report to conviction rate. It would be interesting to compare conviction rates for male and female victims.

june2007 · 06/01/2020 23:25

IOfcourse she linked the review as it,s rlevent but the review has been called for by others any way. So Not necessarily as a result of this case. (Perhaps it was though.) I personally don,t think reclassifying is the answer.

KenDodd · 06/01/2020 23:26

Priti Patel was very clear in linking the review to this case, people have been assaulted, raped and have died for decades using this drug - the timing of the review is wholly in response to this case.
Well that's one good thing to come out of this I suppose.

JamieVardysHavingAParty · 06/01/2020 23:29

There is a celebrity on TV who was convicted of falsely imprisoning a gay man by handcuffing him to a wall and beating him with a metal chain. He had assistance from another man. Before the victim escaped, events strongly suggested that he was going to be raped.

This man is still on tv. Gay men and women are 't taken seriously.

Grumpydad1540 · 06/01/2020 23:30

I’ll be honest. I’m disgusted this post has remained live as long as it has...how does one report a thread?

jellycatspyjamas · 06/01/2020 23:32

IOfcourse she linked the review as it,s rlevent but the review has been called for by others any way

Called for, but not agreed until a plethora of straight men are victimised using the drug. Yes, I’m glad there will be a review and my god I feel for these men - action should however have been taken when GHB first got its reputation as a “date rape” drug, you know when men started using it to rape women rather than simply telling women never to leave their drinks unattended.

WotchaTalkinBoutWillis · 06/01/2020 23:34

@Grumpydad1540
I’ll be honest. I’m disgusted this post has remained live as long as it has...how does one report a thread?

On the OP, there should be a "report" button on the top right hand corner of the comment - click on that

JamieVardysHavingAParty · 06/01/2020 23:34

Grumpydad have you bothered to read the OP beyond the title yet?

AutumnRose1 · 06/01/2020 23:37

Grumpy OP didn’t make any sense with her title.

MustardScreams · 06/01/2020 23:38

@Grumpydad1540 please direct quote where anyone has said on this thread that men deserve it?

It was headline news on all the major outlets today. Women being gang-raped and potentially forced to withdraw their allegations (although this isn’t proven obviously) barely makes the front page.

That doesn’t mean men deserve to be raped?! It means that the media is biased towards the way they report situations that happen to men. Which is what op is putting forward. Which is true.

AutumnRose1 · 06/01/2020 23:39

GHB has been in use ....well, as long as I’ve been going to bars. Probably a lot longer.

Anyone I know has been told “likely your drink wasnt spiked, you were just more drunk than you thought”.

emilybrontescorsett · 06/01/2020 23:40

I agree with the op.
My first thought was no way would he have been sentenced to that long in prison if his victims had been female.
My next thought was how come it's seen as worse for a straight man to be raped.
I'm glad he's been found and sentenced but would like the same tough standards applied when females are raped.

echt · 06/01/2020 23:41

OP: it would be a good idea to have the title of this thread amnded, as it doesn't make sense and doesn't support the points you later make.

AutumnRose1 · 06/01/2020 23:41

Jamie I thought you meant Boy George but I didn’t know another man was involved.

echt · 06/01/2020 23:41

Amended. Sheesh. Hmm

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