The tone of the coverage of the Reynhard Sinaga case. *Title edited by MNHQ*

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Just watching tonight’s news. I do not wish to minimise the trauma suffered by the victims of Reynhard Sinaga, but I’m really struggling with the reporting of the case; even from female journalists. It seems so full of empathy and gravitas, when so many female victims go unheard.

I get what you're saying OP and agree.

That’s not what happened though timeafter. He was acting very suspiciously about his phone and another phone which he couldn’t prove was his. Police thus checked the contents of the phone.

This is the most prolific (proven) rapist ever in this country, perhaps the world. I think that is a good reason for all the coverage

Your title is misleading but I understand the point and agree it’s a valid one. There is a huge disparity in the reporting on rape and sexual assaults in the media.

And re the point made by PP about parole for Warbouys. I can’t imagine this man will ever be seen (Rightly) as a suitable parole candidate. The problems stem from all aspects of how rape is dealt with, from the acceptance of rape culture (e.g Blurred Lines) to the treatment by police and CPS and also in the media.

Sickening crimes regardless of sex of victim. And yes, the conversation should definitely focus on the fact that it’s men who instigate sexual violence in the vast, vast majority and are the sole perpetrators of rape.

They don't know who most of the men were as they have never come forward or weren't aware of what happened to them.
This story is insane. It's a miracle nobody died.

For what I heard they suspect he raped/attacked around 200 people he has been charged with less then half right. so no I don,t think things are that different. And also I think it is harder for a man to admit they have been raped. And GHB has been mentioned a lot it was more the fact it has been linked to deaths which is why they thinking of changing the classification.

Just makes me think of the tiny article I saw today over the video footage of a woman being sexually asssaulted by a large crowd of males in Egypt. She suffers from the double whammy of being female and Not White Enough for coverage. It makes me fucking furious.

Fucking hell woman, get yourself to the doctors and get your head sorted out..... your attitude isn't normal.

If anything male rape isn't spoken about enough in this country, men who are sexually assaulted will be a damn sight less likely to.come forward. In fact if it wasn't for the one victim out of the dozens he raped coming forward this man would still be out there, raping and getting away with it. Male victims of sexual abuse absolutely need to be coming forward and speaking out to encourage men to do exactly the same.

YANBU about the reporting. Just been listening to the radio and the hushed, horrified tones of the presenter were notable such that they caught my attention, then I saw your thread.

They take men more seriously if a man walks into the station and says he was raped they BELIEVE him

The police arrested the male victim in this case for assaulting the rapist to get away. He had managed to get the rapists mobile phone and handed that in with photographic/video evidence on it and was still initially arrested.

I don’t know for certain if a male victim is more likely to be taken seriously tbh.

@Nicknacky

The police told me I was mistaken I would be fine anal sex is seen as a way to prevent pregnancy I was asked if I was racist were my family racist would they object to me taking home a black man I was 19 and he was 40 ish I wasnt believed I was treated like a foolish racist who fell on the wrong dick

I also think that there is something really quite nasty lurking behind the reports that tell us repeatedly that "most of the victims were straight". What, like, so if they'd have been gay it would have been more consensual?

I noticed that.

The reporting around this case, apart from the sneaky comments about the victims' sexuality, has been great, from what I've seen.

The problem is, it highlights the shortcomings in reporting standards around female victims and gay men. Women are assumed to have been up for it in the media when they report rape, on the flimsiest of pretexts, and so are gay men.

Actually, when women are raped they're told to get over it, ime. If they take too long "getting over it", whatever that means precisely, people lose patience.

Yes, like they're supposed to skip out of session six of generic counselling completely healed of trauma with no lingering effects whatsoever. And if they dare speak of their trauma they're lambasted for "being a victim" about it. Merely having to contend with people losing patience is a best case scenario.

Foaming “ In fact if it wasn't for the one victim out of the dozens he raped coming forward”

That isn’t what happened. One victim came to and was sufficiently conscious to attack back, he was then arrested himself.

I can’t help but think that if the victim who came round mid attack had been a woman, on alerting the police, she would probably not been believed or told that it was her own fault for being too drunk. How often do women get raped in similar circumstances (Ched Evans case for example) and get accused of putting herself in that situation willingly. The police would be more likely to search through her phone than his. This horrible bastard fully deserves everything coming to him but let’s not kid ourselves that a rapist of women would get 30 years in prison

Whatever their sex, they are still a victim of a despicable crime and should be treated as such.
For a man I would imagine the impact would be just as devastating as for a woman.

Jamie “ The problem is, it highlights the shortcomings in reporting standards around female victims and gay men. Women are assumed to have been up for it in the media when they report rape, on the flimsiest of pretexts, and so are gay men.”

This.

The exact same thought crossed my mind

LoungeLizard “ can’t help but think that if the victim who came round mid attack had been a woman, on alerting the police, she would probably not been believed or told that it was her own fault for being too drun”

There’s a very recent case where the man was found not guilty and the woman was told her injuries were self inflicted but I cannot recall the names. The man had previous convictions. The woman called police as she was being beaten and somehow he still got off charges?

Men are taken more seriously the initial victim was arrested and charged with assault! If I've read the statistics correctly there is evidence of over 600 men being raped only around a quarter have been identified and one third of those wanted anything to do with the court case because they didnt want their family and friends to find out.

This lady died

Her attacker got Three years, 8 months for killing during “rough sex”

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-stoke-staffordshire-46868395

YABU.
It's not a bloody competition who's the most hard done by.
Just be glad he's been caught.
MN is all manner of fucked up sometimes.

AutumnRose if you read the article properly you'll see that other victims had woken up. Some fought back, but none reported what he'd done.

I also noticed the heterosexual comments, as though a gay man would not feel as bad about being raped !
I agree OP that the talk of shifting the classification of GBH now that so many heterosexual men have been preyed on and raped, does make one wonder why on earth this hasn’t been spoken of sooner, when it is used to drug so many women. There is a subtle suggestion in the reporting that for a straight man to be raped is the very worst sort of rape, as though for other people who do have sex with men, rape is somehow more acceptable. This is rape culture .

Foaming sorry, I understood that only one chap, that we know of, had woken up

I completely understand why others didn’t want to come forward.

I saw some approving reporting of the prosecution's scathing comments on whether a man would have consensually shagged the defendant on the floor after such a short acquaintanceship.

But a woman can be beaten black and blue, and the media doesn't report anything suggesting that women don't tend to engage in violent consensual sex with complete strangers in alleyways.