To report someone who has a pitbull?

[IAmNotLego]

They boast about it being a pitbull, in IRL and on Facebook. Told me they weren't going to have it neutered (so it would continue to grow as big as possible), but had registered it. Surely it would need to be neutered? As part of this?

They told me they have it muzzled in public.

Second conversation. They've said it attacked 2 dogs, so has now been neutered.

I've seen the dog out in public without a muzzle and off lead..

I'm sure some will tell me to mind my own business. But I'd feel awful if something happened to another dog/animal or a child and it could have been prevented.

All you pitbull haters out there are all clearly brainwashed by social media and mainstream bs theres no such thing as a bad dog in any breed it's all dwn to the irresponsible owners who clearly cant train a dog.....funny how it's always the negative side people want to promote no one ever hears about the positive sides of owning an training a pitbull dont put the breed down if your not willing to see both aspects of reality...and I beg any of you haters out there to talk crap plz I beg you.... an at the end of the day humans have committed more atrocities than a lowly being such as a dog like pedophilia murder rape need to get ya facts straight stupid humans

@shedidnt - they have in the past.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2237532/amp/Pet-Jack-Russell-killed-day-old-boy-escaped-stair-gate-attack-child.html

My point is - just because some dogs are aggressive doesn't mean the whole breed deserves to be tarred with the same brush.

In this country, pit bull types are illegal and therefore cannot be insured. So your average nice family is not going to go out and pick an illegal breed. So they're then made attractive to people who raise dogs for fighting, as guard dogs or similar and who don't really give a shit if their dog bites you or attacks you.

How a dog is raised plays a huge role in what they turn out like as adults. There's a thread in the doghouse at the moment about a lady who has a cockapoo - she's smacked it to discipline it and is now surprised because the dog bit her on the face after she smacked it on the nose.

I've never met an unfriendly bull breed dog in my life. I have, however, been leapt at, growled and snapped at by labs, Jack Russells, springer spaniels and collies.

Deed, not breed.

One dog eh?

How many bull terriers have killed children?

You've totally ignored the rest of my post.

My point is that people who buy illegal breeds are typically not people who are raising nice friendly family dogs. They're not going to go out and buy a Labrador or a cocker spaniel or a springer - they want a strong, fierce looking status dog.

In the past it was German shepherds, Rottweilers and Doberman's, then more recently it was huskies and malamutes, and now it's the bull breeds.

In five years time they could all be attracted to the breed you've chosen as your family pet.

m.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/boy-4-killed-by-family-labrador-in-horror-attack-20160817

You can find articles for any breed if you look for them.

@shedidnt not true an infant child was killed by a JR in Telford i think it was a couple of years ago

“Whenever it's noted that bull terrier breeds are at the top of the list of dog mauling deaths, it's because they attract unsociable, irresponsible owners. Right?”

The research on deaths and serious attacks doesn’t rank breed as a factor though, it comes way down the list of things they have in common.

The most common factors in deaths and serious dog attacks are, dogs with a history of abuse and neglect and the victim not being someone they usually live with and the owner not being present.

Then it’s things like not being neutered.

Breed is so far down that any studies that have been done discount it.

The research on deaths and serious attacks doesn’t rank breed as a factor though, it comes way down the list of things they have in common.

The most common factors in deaths and serious dog attacks are, dogs with a history of abuse and neglect and the victim not being someone they usually live with and the owner not being present.

Then it’s things like not being neutered.

Breed is so far down that any studies that have been done discount it.

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I'm not even sure how to respond to such nonsense. Bull terriers account for the vast majority of deaths related to mauling, but you think this is not relevant?

I used to have a staffy, he was gorgeous, loving and adorable.
People would quickly pass judgement and cross over from us.
It used to make so sad. Long story as to how I got the dog, but he was better behaved than my sisters lab.

Even now years later some very posh friends were talking about getting a dog. Staffy was mentioned posh dad went “noooo”. Purely on snob factor.

Shame the idiots have completely ruined a lovely breed. They’ve moved onto huskies now round here and I rarely see them.

It really is down to owners not the breed on this one and unfortunately they’ve attracted idiots and put off perfectly good owners.

However, should the owners in this post be allowed any dog? No, it doesn’t sound like they should.

Bull terriers account for the vast majority of deaths related to mauling, but you think this is not relevant?

It’s an owner issue not a dog issue.

Shame the idiots have completely ruined a lovely breed. They’ve moved onto huskies now round here and I rarely see them.

Yes - the owner of the dog who nearly killed my dog some years ago (pit bull) now has a huskie.

The yobs have moved onto another breed that frequently appears near the top of the deaths related to mauling statistics.

It's not coincidence, it's because they're looking for certain genetic traits.

That's a good point about Jack Russells made by a pp,I was bitten by one as a child.

@EvilPea

My mum gets the same thing with her Staffie. Most recently in the park, a woman tentatively passing with her own dog asked mum 'is IT ok?'
It, IT?! It's a bloody SHE, was what my mum felt like saying!
I have a Shih Tzu, the kind of dog people wouldn't dream of crossing the road to avoid. Mum's Staffie is a million times better behaved than him

Jack Russells are bitey, no one disputes that. They're far less capable of inflicting damage because of their size and strength.

Bull terriers account for the vast majority of deaths related to mauling, but you think this is not relevant?

Bull terriers and pitbulls aren't even the same thing!

I know loads of dogs that have gone for other dogs. Its not breed specific. A dog can be dog reactive for loads of reasons. It doesnt mean anything in terms of danger to humans. My staffie has been attacked twice. Once by a labrador, once by a fucking retriever/setter who wanted her stick. The staffie didnt even fight back even though injured and cut both times. She did try and have a go when saw one of these dogs later though
My friends chihuahuas have gone for other dogs AND people.

I also know someone who suspects her staff has pit in her. Smaller and squarer than most staffs, but biggest risk from her is if you leave your remote control or glasses lying around.

I honestly think you need to keep your beak out

“Bull terriers account for the vast majority of deaths related to mauling, but you think this is not relevant?“

Well it’s not me doing the research...but...

About half the fatal attacks in the US are attributed to pitbull “types” or pitbull mixes, so firstly there’s a huge issue there with identification of breed and whether breed traits can be present just because a dog looks a certain way.

But leaving that aside if we pretend that all those dogs have been correctly identified... yes, the percentage of correlation for circumstances like dogs involved in fatal attacks is just under 100% ( there’s the odd one that makes it not quite) that makes it much more relevant than breed.

The dog should be rehabilitated. The owner should be put down. Or heavily fined and banned from keeping animals.

I own 2 pitbulls and they are the biggest sweetheart. They are protective of their home and owners. Very loyal dogs. So before you talk down on the breed you might want to first look at it's owners. A dog only learns what it is teached. No matter if they are bred to fight or not.

“Bull terriers account for the vast majority of deaths related to mauling, but you think this is not relevant?“

I suspect it is VERY relevant and tells us quite clearly that these types of dogs are perhaps the most vulnerable to abuse and neglect, leading miserable lives in which aggression becomes the norm.

Bull terriers,bull mastive, bull mungruls are the most dangerous dogs I've ever known. Also you do get teenager's that breed bull breeds for money and their's no law in place to stop it. I know someone who breed a pedegree staff and a staffy + the dog had 5 dangerous pups. I think it's similar to the breeding of humans if I breed with a man I don't necessarily feel attracted to I would create a messed up child. It's not always the owners full if they buy a dud dog as it can take a while to distinguish if the dog is dangerous. PLEASE PEOPLE KEEP PIT BULL OUT OF THE DANGEROUS CATEGORY. I am affended.

Having had a pitbull ( not intentional) and having had him registered the process is a police dog liaison officer, comes out, measures the dog, IF it meets the requirements of a pitbull type then its siezed and the character, owner and living situation are assessed. Any number of things can be failed and you dont get the dog back. Prior to dogs return, it has to be neutered and the protocol used to be tattooed on the inside of the back leg ( think this has changed now) before being released by the court. Then muzzled in public and on a certain length lead and insured by the ONE company that insures pitbull type dogs. This guy sounds like a billy bullshitter and a irresponsible dog owner that should be reported

Staffies really are the best. In fact, I feel like squeezing one right now

@Branleuse

I feel so bad for your Staffie. Other dogs can be such fucking eejits.

I wonder why guns are illegal then, especially given that there's an even stronger argument that it's the actions of the owner that cause deaths?

Maybe it's to do with the huge amount of damage they can do compared to a baseball bat.

How many adult humans have been killed by Jack Russells?