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To report someone who has a pitbull?

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IAmNotLego · 04/01/2020 19:03

They boast about it being a pitbull, in IRL and on Facebook. Told me they weren't going to have it neutered (so it would continue to grow as big as possible), but had registered it. Surely it would need to be neutered? As part of this?

They told me they have it muzzled in public.

Second conversation. They've said it attacked 2 dogs, so has now been neutered.

I've seen the dog out in public without a muzzle and off lead..

I'm sure some will tell me to mind my own business. But I'd feel awful if something happened to another dog/animal or a child and it could have been prevented.

OP posts:
Maneandfeathers · 05/01/2020 06:42

MN is strange sometimes.

My neighbor is drunk driving and could potentially kill someone should I report it.
Whole of MN going mad about why hasn’t it been reported sooner they could kill someone.

I’ve found £10 on the floor should I keep it. MN how couldn’t you give it in to the nearest authority that’s morally wrong.

However you can have an illegal breed and allow it off lead attacking dogs and MN is in uproar that someone may report an illegal activity.

Why is it any different to say driving a car without a license. Both can kill someone, both are potentially dangerous yet people see one as acceptable breaking of the law and one as unacceptable. The dangerous dogs act wasn’t brought in because people didn’t like a pit bulls face, it’s there to protect people and other animals. You can’t pick and chose which laws you want to obey Hmm

Nicolem618 · 05/01/2020 06:43

Y’all do know Pitbulls are really only three breeds. It is an umbrella terms for multiple dogs that have large heads, short hair, etc. The only true breeds of PitBulls are American Staffordshire Terrier, Staffordshire Bull Terrier, and American PitBull Terrier. Pitbulls are not usually naturally aggressive towards people, the person makes it aggressive. This is why it is so important to socialize, train, and keep a dog on the leash. It is irresponsible owners that are the problem. I mean I have an American PitBull Terrier legally, and he’s the most amazing dog ever. I can see dog aggression since they were sadly breed for dog fighting for so many years. Yes because of this they are prone to dog aggression. I do have to watch my dog since he gets “hyped up” he won’t “attack” unless provoked, but it’s all about reading signs. Dogs will give you a million signs before going after anything. People just need to be more well versed in dog signs especially when we have powerful dogs like these. Reading the signs a dog gives out will save lives and will protect from biting.
I hate the statistics where if the dog gets hit in the head it’ll suddenly go mad. B.T.W that doesn’t work that way. Like I said earlier dogs give signs. Also ones that say they have lock jaw. They DO NOT have lock jaw. They bite down with a force that is powerful but their jaws do not lock. If you look at a skull of a Lab and the one of a Pit they are the exact same. They do not have a physical mechanism to able them to do this. Pits actually have one of the highest temperament test bearing scores of the high 80’s. That’s extremely high and very good. Also Pits don’t just suddenly “turn” like I’ve said they give signs. Let’s please end false information and spread truths.

APT2020 · 05/01/2020 06:45

Now as for reporting, I would say yes because if it is true that the dog did indeed attack other dogs, he would be considered dangerous. It really does not matter what type/breed it is.

Mummy232019 · 05/01/2020 06:46

@ballsdeep Pitbulls are banned because PEOPLE didn’t treat them right. The people should be put down not the dogs, just because there’s a law doesn’t mean it’s right. Like I said report if you have proof if not mind your own business.

beautifulstranger101 · 05/01/2020 06:49

Why is it any different to say driving a car without a license. Both can kill someone, both are potentially dangerous yet people see one as acceptable breaking of the law and one as unacceptable

Yup- its no different at all. But MN is weird sometimes- a woman accidentally goes through a red light, admits it was her fault but bemoans having to go to a driving awareness course- MN calls her a selfish, disgusting, immoral bitch who is putting people's lives in danger.

87 year old man gets jailed for KILLING someone whilst driving dangerously and disables another woman for life and its: "oh the poor old man, how unfair he got a prison sentence for what was essentially a genuine "mistake".

Go figure!

allyjay · 05/01/2020 06:57

I agree MN is weird. Particularly when it comes to dogs, but where is the OP, did she ever come back to the thread?

TheEva1966 · 05/01/2020 06:59

Absolutely 100% report it. Don't even question yourself. Those two dogs it already attacked could have been children. You sound like a really decent guy who's concerned about ur community. I don't think you'll be able to live with yourself if this pit attacks a child. Please, report it. It's the right thing to do.

TheEva1966 · 05/01/2020 07:02

@flyingchip... Agreed 100%

IHateBlueLights · 05/01/2020 07:06

Report. If it's legal no harm done.

BelleSausage · 05/01/2020 07:08

@Maneandfeathers

Agree completely.

What really gets me is the people defending bull breeds on this thread apparently like dogs. But seem to give not a gig that this dog is attacking other dogs and is more likely to harm other dogs.

If they truly don’t care about a child or adult getting bitten then at least they could think of the other poor dog who is bounding happily through the park at the wrong time.

In my experience many dog owners are pretty bad judges of their dogs aggression level. A friend of mine has a rescue German Shepard that has bitten her, attacked her cat, attacked two other dogs that have visited the house and now cannot be left alone with any animals or people. She refuses to do anything about it.

People are as stupid about their dogs as they are about their kids- blinded by love. But at least a feral four year old can’t kill or maim other four year olds.

Kevin0570 · 05/01/2020 07:19

I have a pitbull... The sweetest dog I've ever had.. They get a bumb rap... I wouldn't have any other kind now. .He is so affectionate, kisses all the time... He just wants to be by me all the time. Love him and all pits......

EntropyRising · 05/01/2020 07:25

Just to repeat myself: the statistic about Labs being the most prolific biters in the UK is not exactly correct. They are the breed resulting in the most insurance claims, which of course is limited to dogs that are insured in the first instance.

The average bull terrier is far less likely to be insured than a Labrador.

EntropyRising · 05/01/2020 07:26

I have a pitbull... The sweetest dog I've ever had.. They get a bumb rap... I wouldn't have any other kind now. .He is so affectionate, kisses all the time... He just wants to be by me all the time. Love him and all pits......

Let me guess - he's a big sop and would make a terrible guard dog because he would just wag his tail and lick everyone to death.

Kevin0570 · 05/01/2020 07:31

You have to be a responsible dog owner of any type of dog. The little one's can be the meanest... They should always be on a leash when outside... Dogs are going to fight other dogs.. It's the way they are. My golden retriever and my pit fight once in awhile. It is usually golden starting it. They don't really try to hurt each other.. it's over me or food... My pit never knew anything about Fighting until meeting my golden. She was a rescue and lived on the streets before I got her....Please don't judge pits until you've met one.......

iem0128 · 05/01/2020 07:36

allyjay, BelleSausage, @Maneandfeathers: I agree that there are some nuts on this forum. In fact, on all forums. Earlier, I posted a thread as I needed help. Some person swore at her reply and some contributor who inflated her education attainment said I didn't give enough info. I was so fed up that I immediately stop receiving notifications and changed my user name! LOL!

Omashu · 05/01/2020 07:43

It doesn’t matter what breed it is. Pit bulls are lovely dogs when raised properly.

The point is you’ve said the dog in question as supposedly attacked others and has an irresponsible owner. So yes, of course you should report it!

Mimi91 · 05/01/2020 07:47

Banned breeds can be kept if proof has been provided that the dog is safe. They should hold a certificate of exemption if they have followed the correct procedures.

They also need to have insurance for this particular breed. I guess it's hard to know if they hold the certificate unless the have explicitly told you they don't, but they should be muzzling the dog in public, so there are definite grounds to report them.

EntropyRising · 05/01/2020 07:52

Please don't judge pits until you've met one......

I have. I've been attacked by two (together) - I'm lucky to have gotten away. My old dog was nearly killed by one, she was hospitalised for two weeks (on my dime, of course, the other dog wasn't insured) and now, years later, there's a pitbull type dog at the park who goes for my dog at every opportunity.

His owner seems to get that he's dangerous and puts him back on the lead whenever my dog is around, but I don't really understand why she has him at all.

All of my dogwalking friends at the park are wary of these dogs - why do you think that is?

Steve1973 · 05/01/2020 07:57

What a ridiculous statement bull terriers are less likely to be insured I'd really like to know how you have any proof of this 2019 bull terriers were voted UKs favourite dog. typical breed hater please dont post if you dont have anything to back this up

adaline · 05/01/2020 07:59

What really gets me is the people defending bull breeds on this thread apparently like dogs. But seem to give not a gig that this dog is attacking other dogs and is more likely to harm other dogs.

One dog of a certain breed attacking others doesn't mean that all dogs of that breed are dangerous though Hmm

The most snappy, aggressive dog I know of is a Jack Russell Terrier but I don't go around calling for the entire breed to be banned because of it.

EntropyRising · 05/01/2020 08:05

What a ridiculous statement bull terriers are less likely to be insured I'd really like to know how you have any proof of this 2019 bull terriers were voted UKs favourite dog. typical breed hater please dont post if you dont have anything to back this up

You pitbull apologists can't have it both ways.

Whenever it's noted that bull terrier breeds are at the top of the list of dog mauling deaths, it's because they attract unsociable, irresponsible owners. Right?

it's entirely inconsistent then, to say that Labs are the most 'dangerous' dogs on the basis of insurance claims, because unsociable, irresponsible owners don't insure their dogs and so bull terrier breeds will be underrepresented in these statistics.

Kevin0570 · 05/01/2020 08:14

No I'm not saying that because I know he would protect me. My grandson was yelling and Dough Boy started growling. And he loves my grandson but he wasn't going for him hurting me so he warned him.. He loves people, kids all people.....

Shedidnt · 05/01/2020 08:16

I wouldn't hesitate to report. Not for a second. Last year, it was approximately once a month that I was reading about another child being killed by a dog. I love dogs, but you just can't allow everyone and anyone to own a dangerous dog. EVERYONE says that their dog is a lovely passive dog.

Shedidnt · 05/01/2020 08:17

The most snappy, aggressive dog I know of is a Jack Russell Terrier but I don't go around calling for the entire breed to be banned because of it
A JR is unlikely to kill a child.

Thatagain · 05/01/2020 08:19

This dog in ? Needs to be reported that is a fact (dog wardon) There are people on here that think they know about pit bulls like they are not a breed?they do not have a lock jaw? If people haven't got the facts they shouldn't state their opinion. There are also people who say that they have a pit bull really? My neighbour thinks he owns one infact he swears it. They are rare in the uk and now in America. They have had their blood lines destroyed by man Tring to create the so called perfect breed I would love to see another one. It is annoying when people say they have a pit even though they are now banned and don't even know what they look like. Also someone said that their is mastive in a pit no their isn't. A pit bull is a breed and it's a irish staff ×American staff then English staff was introduced to the breed back in the 1800. They were breed for cattle and some pit enthusiasts say they were also breed to watch over children. Please note also pit bulls are small .

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