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To NOT host Christmas?

123 replies

SunshineAngel · 03/01/2020 11:58

In a bit of an odd situation.

I'm living with my partner, and our parents live in the same town. So, for the past few Christmases, we've gone to lunch at our respective families' houses, then I've joined him for the evening, and we've gone out for a meal with my family on Boxing Day. It works for us both, and is quite an easy solution.

His family have three siblings (including him) and the parents. His parents always used to do Christmas dinner, but now his brother and sister take it in turns as it's too much for his parents.

For a while now, there have been a lot of comments about how we don't host Christmas and "take our turn".

The thing is, their houses are a lot bigger than ours, with entertaining space. Our house is small, with just a kitchen and living room downstairs, and the only space we have to sit at a table is a 2 person breakfast bar jutting out from the work surface.

Christmas dinner for his family alone would involve cooking for and seating 11 people - plus obviously if we were hosting I would have think about inviting my family as well, which is another 5.

There is NOWHERE for that number of people to sit, and not enough space for us to serve up Christmas dinners for that number of people.

They then suggested that perhaps we could invite everyone for the buffet on Boxing Day that his parents usually do - but this includes MORE people, as uncles and aunties come, too! Think 20+ people.

There is no way that we could have that many people in this house at the same time. We have 2 seats in the kitchen, nowhere to put buffet food, and 4 seats in the living room. Even spare chairs would just get in the way of people walking round because of the layout. His siblings' kids both have learning disabilities, one of them gets seriously stressed in crowds, so this would be a nightmare for him anyway and would probably cause a meltdown - no kid should be put through that at Christmas, right?

We have said that we will happily pay for Christmas dinner (or a meal in the days following) for people at our local pub, which does nice dinners. It would cost £50pp so a huge amount of money for us, but at the same time it feels like the only way we can "take our turn" and give everyone else a break.

His siblings have said no to this, because both of their children struggle to behave in public due to learning disabilities. Fair enough.

But his parents are now saying that my partner won't be welcome to Christmas lunch again until he's taken his turn.

It all just seems a bit sad. He has offered to contribute money for Christmas dinner, he always gets turned down. Asks if he should bring anything, they say no (but he always takes plenty of drink).

I don't know what to do! How are we supposed to host Christmas in a house the size of a shoebox?

OP posts:
Polarbearshare · 03/01/2020 14:01

I would do it once let them see how much of a nightmare it is and then start doing your own christmas after that.

JosefKeller · 03/01/2020 14:05

I can never understand the need for families to have to pile into one house for a Christmas dinner.

because some families actually enjoy spending time together at least once a year. Bit sad when you only see all your kids together when there's a funeral.

SoupDragon · 03/01/2020 14:07

I wonder how much he pays towards the meal

They turn him down when he offers to pay.

BloggersBlog · 03/01/2020 14:07

What @Polarbearshare says - and tell them to bring their own small fold up chair with them. They will soon see what you mean!

AcrossthePond55 · 03/01/2020 14:07

My mum's family did a 'sibling rota' for Xmas Dinner, too, although the family party was the weekend before Xmas. When the number got to 64 (and that's just grandparents, the siblings & spouses, grandchildren & spouses, and great grandchildren) my aunts & uncles had to start hiring halls. After a few of years of that they all decided that it was just too too much. The party (by agreement) then became the grandparents, the siblings & spouses, and the hosting sibling's (adult) children and grandchildren. The rest of us were just fine with that.

If your DP's siblings won't accept your offers to host in a way that works for you (restaurant, hiring a hall, hosting at another's house) then as far as I'm concerned you've met your 'obligation'. You've extended an 'invitation', they have declined it. I'd be fine with any of those. Why on earth would I want to be squished to death and have to eat elbow to elbow in a sibling's tiny home just so I felt everything was 'even Steven'. That's ridiculous.

Gingertam · 03/01/2020 14:08

Poor you. Please don't engage with them. Just have Xmas with your family or stay at home. I would tell them this now so they know for next Xmas. My friend had the same situation with her husband. He is one of 5 and they insist on one sibling having everybody (spouses and children included) on a rotation. My friend just bowed out as she found it unbearable. She always has a much nicer Xmas day now. They sound vile. Also, don't be taking them all out and paying!

Ihatemyseleffordoingthis · 03/01/2020 14:08

"his parents are now saying that my partner won't be welcome to Christmas lunch again until he's taken his turn."

That makes them sound totally horrid but as a pp ^^ said, I think actually they are calling him out for being a non-cooking, non-paying lazy arse. From their point of view he racks up for xmas dinner despite his siblings having families etc.

That said you could:

  • do drinks on xmas eve and nice food/hosting
  • get over yourself and your prep in advance mode (or cook stuff at yours and serve it at theirs
  • all cram in on borrowed tables and chairs for xmas dinner - lots of people do
  • host xmas evening - dessert and drinks
  • oh and no you wouldn't have to invite your parents too
  • insist your DH learns to cook something - he's got 11 and a half months to do it.

I think you are being inflexible and your DH is being called out

CeeceeBloomingdale · 03/01/2020 14:12

His parents, who don't host any longer, say you're not welcome at someone else's house? Great, you're off the hook. How stupid of them if they know you don't have space, it's no business of theirs and is very controlling. If his siblings have an issue they should speak to you.

I don't understand why you say you would have to have your family too though, if you have parents, grandparents and a brother surely they can do their own thing? It's not obligatory to see every family member on Christmas Day, we don't and we all live close and are on good terms.

Knowhowufeel · 03/01/2020 14:18

@SunshineAngel, what do they say when you tell them it's not that you don't want to host, more that practically you just don't have the physical space, which makes it impossible?

mumxthr33 · 03/01/2020 14:24

This is just bonkers, always the person with the biggest house hosts IF they want everyone together. If they don't want to do it each sibling will do their own lunch and then meet later.
We've had Christmas Lunch out before and it gets very expensive so I'd be wary about suggesting that since you're just doing it out of pressure and not because you want to.
I would be very tempted if I was you to host it, knowing full well the downsides and just have a bit of watching everyone realise that they made a mistake pressuring you to host.

fedup21 · 03/01/2020 14:27

Could you make and bring the starters, puddings, booze and meat plus do all the washing up?

Then, if it’s that they don’t think you’re pulling the weight, they would be wrong!

FruitcakeOfHate · 03/01/2020 14:27

So, Sunshine, what is he suggesting now they turned down the restaurant? Or is Christmas, like cooking, your job, too?

Quietintheranks · 03/01/2020 14:28

Things get hectic over Christmas and people can get stressed, ignore the nasty remarks from the parents. But why not do something for the usual hosts. Maybe acknowledge the hard work involved and offer to host Boxing Day next year. Hiring a hall is a good idea, we did this when we lived in a tiny cottage years ago. The local village hall was very cheap and the space was fabulous, it was already decked out for Christmas and because it was huge we hired a bouncy castle for the kids (and adults). Everyone brought drinks with them and we did the food.

Spitsandspots · 03/01/2020 14:31

It would be great if you just said “sure, we’ll do Christmas” then invite them round, hand out plates of food and watch them trying to eat standing up all squashed in Grin

reginafelangee · 03/01/2020 14:32

I suggest you do and let everyone sit with their food on their laps and see how they enjoy it.

Have these people actually bee. To your house?

It's sounds mad.

dognamedspot · 03/01/2020 14:33

This isn't your problem. You haven't been to their family meals have you? What does your partner think about it?

Thorilicious · 03/01/2020 14:35

Do you have a garden? Someone I know this year hosted, and set their large tent up in the garden to have lunch in.

IVflytrap · 03/01/2020 14:42

I would host it out of spite. Make them eat their Chrustmas dinners crammed together sitting on the floor...

Alternatively, instead of springing it on them,
take some photos of the available space, send to all, confirm they'd be fine crammed in together like sardines/eating standing up and if they still OK it, go ahead and send the invitations. It's unlikely after one Christmas of it that they'll ever expect you to host again.

AryaStarkWolf · 03/01/2020 14:46

@Ihatemyseleffordoingthis why should she do all that though, she's never even eaten Christmas dinner with them before, she spends it with her own parents?

BlackAmericanoNoSugar · 03/01/2020 14:47

It's perfectly possible for your DP to cook even if he can't cook. My Mum wanted to host Christmas this year but didn't want to overtire herself so bought everything ready to go into the oven from M&S. But your house situation makes it impossible.

If your DP wanted to make a point he could do a 'trial Christmas' with a couple of large ready to roast chickens, frozen ready to roast potatoes, ready to microwave veg etc. But, tbh, they have already given him an option to get out of Christmas completely and I think he should take it.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 03/01/2020 14:48

More than once, inc. Christmas just gone, I’ve bought and taken every last item needed and cooked the dinner at someone else’s house - this year it was v heavily pregnant dd, previously it has been a parent with dementia, and a couple whose foreign wife wasn’t at all confident of doing it.
Given your space issue, that would IMO be the way to ‘host’ another time.

Ihatemyseleffordoingthis · 03/01/2020 14:53

@AryaStarkWolf tbh I mean her OH could/should. and OP said she'd be willing to host but apparently it's impossible. Just pointing out that it's not. But you're missing the main point which is that her OH racks up every year for his dinner (and her in the evening) and never reciprocates in effort/hosting/expense and his folks have had enough of it.

MurrayTheMonk · 03/01/2020 14:54

Well they ate being tests aren't they?
If you can't do a stand up buffet then have you got a garden? If so I would either offer a summer BBQ as an alternative. Or fuck them off entirely.
You've offered to pay for them all to go out. What else can you possible do other than magically enlarge your house.

MangoesAreMyFavourite · 03/01/2020 14:57

It's the wrong person asking for suggestions.
OP, it's not your problem to solve. Your DP should be thinking of how he can host (or not go).

Please don't try to solve a problem that's not yours.

AryaStarkWolf · 03/01/2020 14:59

@Ihatemyseleffordoingthis no I haven't missed that point, infact taking Christmas out of it altogether I think the OP needs to address this "DH can't cook" shite, Christmas is once a year, I presume every other day of the year the OP is waiting on him? That's disgraceful. How can anyone not be able to cook a roast anyway? It's literally sticking something in the oven and peeling some veg (ok ish but it's not that complicated) I find it hard to believe all these useless man babies can hold down jobs and drive cars but are incapable of peeling a potato or turning an oven on