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To NOT host Christmas?

123 replies

SunshineAngel · 03/01/2020 11:58

In a bit of an odd situation.

I'm living with my partner, and our parents live in the same town. So, for the past few Christmases, we've gone to lunch at our respective families' houses, then I've joined him for the evening, and we've gone out for a meal with my family on Boxing Day. It works for us both, and is quite an easy solution.

His family have three siblings (including him) and the parents. His parents always used to do Christmas dinner, but now his brother and sister take it in turns as it's too much for his parents.

For a while now, there have been a lot of comments about how we don't host Christmas and "take our turn".

The thing is, their houses are a lot bigger than ours, with entertaining space. Our house is small, with just a kitchen and living room downstairs, and the only space we have to sit at a table is a 2 person breakfast bar jutting out from the work surface.

Christmas dinner for his family alone would involve cooking for and seating 11 people - plus obviously if we were hosting I would have think about inviting my family as well, which is another 5.

There is NOWHERE for that number of people to sit, and not enough space for us to serve up Christmas dinners for that number of people.

They then suggested that perhaps we could invite everyone for the buffet on Boxing Day that his parents usually do - but this includes MORE people, as uncles and aunties come, too! Think 20+ people.

There is no way that we could have that many people in this house at the same time. We have 2 seats in the kitchen, nowhere to put buffet food, and 4 seats in the living room. Even spare chairs would just get in the way of people walking round because of the layout. His siblings' kids both have learning disabilities, one of them gets seriously stressed in crowds, so this would be a nightmare for him anyway and would probably cause a meltdown - no kid should be put through that at Christmas, right?

We have said that we will happily pay for Christmas dinner (or a meal in the days following) for people at our local pub, which does nice dinners. It would cost £50pp so a huge amount of money for us, but at the same time it feels like the only way we can "take our turn" and give everyone else a break.

His siblings have said no to this, because both of their children struggle to behave in public due to learning disabilities. Fair enough.

But his parents are now saying that my partner won't be welcome to Christmas lunch again until he's taken his turn.

It all just seems a bit sad. He has offered to contribute money for Christmas dinner, he always gets turned down. Asks if he should bring anything, they say no (but he always takes plenty of drink).

I don't know what to do! How are we supposed to host Christmas in a house the size of a shoebox?

OP posts:
KitKat1985 · 03/01/2020 12:42

I'd invite them all for Christmas and so that they can stand the entire time, including for Christmas lunch.

Brefugee · 03/01/2020 12:43

how about trying a family get-together not at Christmas for all the people you would invite at Christmas at your place? So not an "occasion" that could be ruined.

And then when they see how ridiculous it is you can take it from there.

howabout · 03/01/2020 12:45

I don't think this is about "taking your turn" at all. It is about pressuring you to attend Christmas with them in preference to your own family. Are you positive this is not actually coming from your DP rather than his family?

Kanga83 · 03/01/2020 12:46

Do your own Christmas. You do not have a turn if it doesn't suit you. Small family christmases are the way forwards.

AryaStarkWolf · 03/01/2020 12:46

But why should she do any of that and put herself out when she never eats Christmas Dinner with them anyway? That's the bit I don't understand. She has dinner with her own parents

ContessaLovesTheSunshine · 03/01/2020 12:47

I suggest you invite all the Christmas attendees to your house for a roast dinner in about a month (as that's effectively Christmas, isn't it). Let them all pile in and struggle for space uncomfortably. Occasionally say things like "Sorry, I know it's a bit packed, haha - cosy up!" Be as positive as possible.

Bring it up again a week later and I bet they back off!

Apolloanddaphne · 03/01/2020 12:47

If you never have Christmas dinner at theirs why should you host them at yours?

Tistheseason17 · 03/01/2020 12:48

CalmingJanet has the best response. YANBU

Magicpaintbrush · 03/01/2020 12:50

YANBU at all.

I would host it at yours - it will be a nightmare and that is the only way they will see for themselves that you were right and they should have listened to you. When they are sitting with trays on laps on or the living floor just to squeeze everybody in, they won't ask you to host again! How can they expect you to put on Christmas dinner without a dining table??? Idiots.

blueheaven97 · 03/01/2020 12:52

OP, I'm curious to know - when you explain that you can't do it at your place because it is too small, what do they say?

DoesntLeftoverTurkeySoupDragOn · 03/01/2020 12:53

How are we supposed to host Christmas in a house the size of a shoebox?

This should be all you need to say to them.

FraglesRock · 03/01/2020 12:53

It's a bit odd to me, they're not bothered about your company until they've decided you should host. They're not bothered about your dh hosting they will want/need you to do it.
For that reason only, I'd say that you're not getting involved, leave dh to sort it.

I'd be offended at being needed only to cater

Lobsterquadrille2 · 03/01/2020 12:53

Ask all the family members you have listed (aside from your grandparents because of the stairs) for tea and cakes on Easter Sunday. Your grandparents won't miss out on Christmas that way. Sometimes people have too see for themselves what others' living situations are like, and until then they can believe in their own mind that these are "excuses".

PersephoneandHades · 03/01/2020 12:54

I agree they are being completely U

But I also agree with some PP that this isn't your issue, OP. You usually spend the day with your family yet his family (and him) would expect you to cook the whole family a Christmas meal? If your partner's a bad cook he needs to spend some time learning to cook, I really don't like hearing this excuse from anyone when it comes to basic domestic chores, it is something people simply need to be able to do. Are you expected to cook all his meals for him usually because he can't be arsed to learn?

Spend the day with your family since I'm sure they wouldn't mind having your partner over?

Or, as PP have said, host at yours and let them have their shoebox Christmas, but don't take on the responsibility for his family yourself!

JosefKeller · 03/01/2020 12:55

But his parents are now saying that my partner won't be welcome to Christmas lunch again until he's taken his turn.

I can't stand ultimatum, I would just say "fine" and not go again, their loss.

If they had been more reasonable, to be honest you could have hosted them with a buffet - and not inviting your own family at the same time. No reason why you should have both at the same time if you are short of space. You could have invited your own family another time.

you could also have considered a "summer party" of some kind instead, if you had outdoor space making it easier.

But personally, I react very badly to ultimatum so that would be it for me.

TeaForTara · 03/01/2020 12:56

I would agree to do it. Then say "of course, everyone will have to sit on the floor with a plate on their lap as we have no dining table and only room for x to sit on chairs and they are reserved for my grandparents."

FruitcakeOfHate · 03/01/2020 12:59

So your partner's family are trying to bully you into catering for them and not spend it with your own family (the ol' 'rubbish cook' Get Out of Life free card)? Nope. 'I'll continue to spend Xmas with my family. I won't be hosting.' The end.

Do not martyr yourself for them! FAR too many women martyr themselves over fucking Christmas, then they bitch about it on here. No tying yourself in bloody knots with compromises and Boxing Day or cooking in a fucking social club or YOU taking over fucking Christmas. If HE wants to hire out a club or put on a buffet, tell him to go for it.

You don't even go to theirs! You're not welcome. But they want YOU to skivvy for them.

And just, paying 50pp for them? C'mon. This is HIS family, whom you don't even see at Xmas.

Just tell them you will carry on as usual going to your parents and leave any of the rest to HIM for him to deal with.

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 03/01/2020 13:01

Well. They're being ridiculous, aren't they. Of course your partner can't "take his turn" with his current living arrangements, how stupid!

Perhaps there's something else behind this - perhaps they think that you should be joining their family for Christmas dinner, not your own, and that this is the best way to enforce that.

The 2 ideas I like best are:

  1. tell them to stuff it and your partner goes with you to your family next year
  2. invite them all over for dinner in a couple of month's time so they can bloody well SEE for themselves how impossible it is.

But in all honesty I cannot see why you should host them, as it would be you doing all the work, when they've never hosted you. So my favourite option is still no.1 - tell them to stuff it.

Sewrainbow · 03/01/2020 13:01

Well they're a bit dense if they can't see your house is too small to host them. I think you've offered plenty of solutions to the problem, I'd take your dp to your family in future and leave them and their controlling views to themselves.

Sounds like they haven't been able to let go of the family traditions from past years. Why should you hosting boxing day involve extended aunts and uncles just because that's what they do? They dont get to dictate your guests.

I can't believe they'd say that your dp isnt welcome unless he hosts via their rules how very hurtful. If I were him and you I'd never go again at Christmas (nor other times!), they will be the ones who miss out eventually. Support him to break away from horrible controlling family.

LazyDaisey · 03/01/2020 13:09

“You don't even go to theirs! You're not welcome. ”

Eh!? She says in her OP that she has lunch at her parents’ then she goes to whoever is hosting (brother or sister) in the evening. She does join them, just not for lunch. But I agree, this is your partner’s issue. IF he wants to cook and host at yours for his family... he’s more than welcome to and you will join them all in the evening at yours. Like you always do.

Ellie56 · 03/01/2020 13:10

I think you should invite them all round for the family buffet and let them sit on the stairs. Grin

Let them find out for themselves how ridiculous they are.

Grumpos · 03/01/2020 13:11

Oh they are being totally unreasonable!

One way of proving your point -

Why not host a Sunday dinner in a few weeks, have everyone over that you would for Xmas. Borrow a couple of trestle tables and set it up in front room.
Have everyone over for a proper roast with pudding and drinks etc and see how you get on, this is probably going to be really stressful but it might finally prove that logistically your house is not a viable option for hosting.

With a roast you can prep it all on the Saturday to reduce the effort, some ready made deserts etc.

If it’s uncomfortable for people and way too much for the kids then hopefully they will realise you’re not being arsey, it’s just not practical. On the reverse you might find it works (I’ve been to a Xmas lunch where it was a big table set up in the front room as kitchen too small and no dining room and it was fine!)

katewhinesalot · 03/01/2020 13:12

This is dps problem.
You go to your parents so he has the choice of sorting out Xmas at yours, including the cooking or he can come with you to your parents.

Not your problem so stay out of it.

EwwSprouts · 03/01/2020 13:13

Invite them all round in the summer when you can use outside space as well. Birthday/anniversary/summer bbq whatever but label it so it seems significant family event Wink

kingkuta · 03/01/2020 13:14

I don't think this is about "taking your turn" at all. It is about pressuring you to attend Christmas with them in preference to your own family

Exactly this. They're trying to force you to have lunch with them. BTW what you currently do sounds perfect and is what me and DH did until we had dd, moved to a bigger house and started hosting ourselves. Don't let yourself be bullied by them